@jarabaa Just attended a Jewish observation of Tisha B'Av where this melody, exactly, is sung in Hebrew and translated exactly as this song. Which means this is a very old, and traditional, Hebrew melody and song. The holiday commemorates/mourns the Babylonian conquest and destruction of the Temple back in 500's BC. Your search for origins of melody is commendable!
I think Jeremiah is credited with writing Psalm 137. This is a translation of an ancient Hebrew lamentation -- Don McLean sings well, but not the writer. In a Jewish Synagogue you'll hear this sung in Hebrew on the night of Tisha B'Av -- remembrance and mourning the Babylonian destruction of the Temple and thoughtful mourning over all human suffering...
The round composition done here was originally written by Philip Hayes, likely in his collection "Sixteen Psalms" in 1788, and then later covered by Don McLean on American Pie in 1971.
I am having difficult tracing this. Of course, it's a verse from Psalm 137 (or 136 by another counting) - not a "song by Don McLean", as one often reads. I remember him singing it, alongside "American Pie" and "Vincent" in the early 70s. But where does the melody, the arrangement, come from? I haven't been able to locate it as any sort of arrangement of the Psalm - whether composed, "traditional", folk, Appalachian, metrical versification, or anything else. Did Don McLean write the tune?
That should be StreetsingerJohn, one word, sorry.
StreetsingerJohn 5 months ago
Very nice, but it wasn't written by Don McLean. To hear what may be the 18th-century original, search on Streetsinger John.
StreetsingerJohn 5 months ago
@jarabaa Just attended a Jewish observation of Tisha B'Av where this melody, exactly, is sung in Hebrew and translated exactly as this song. Which means this is a very old, and traditional, Hebrew melody and song. The holiday commemorates/mourns the Babylonian conquest and destruction of the Temple back in 500's BC. Your search for origins of melody is commendable!
marimblues 6 months ago
I think Jeremiah is credited with writing Psalm 137. This is a translation of an ancient Hebrew lamentation -- Don McLean sings well, but not the writer. In a Jewish Synagogue you'll hear this sung in Hebrew on the night of Tisha B'Av -- remembrance and mourning the Babylonian destruction of the Temple and thoughtful mourning over all human suffering...
marimblues 6 months ago
The round composition done here was originally written by Philip Hayes, likely in his collection "Sixteen Psalms" in 1788, and then later covered by Don McLean on American Pie in 1971.
ZoeNox 6 months ago
I am having difficult tracing this. Of course, it's a verse from Psalm 137 (or 136 by another counting) - not a "song by Don McLean", as one often reads. I remember him singing it, alongside "American Pie" and "Vincent" in the early 70s. But where does the melody, the arrangement, come from? I haven't been able to locate it as any sort of arrangement of the Psalm - whether composed, "traditional", folk, Appalachian, metrical versification, or anything else. Did Don McLean write the tune?
jarabaa 7 months ago
its great our choir sings with the piano
Livylou9 11 months ago
Great! I almost missed you though because your title should be "WATERS" of Babylon--NOT rivers--a completely different song.
By the way, Don Mc Clean adopted this very old Folk round--a public domain work. He did not write it, but I'm glad he brought it to our attention.
pjmnash 1 year ago
sounds good, but the sound is terribly overmodulated.
jmprater 1 year ago
lovely. thanks.
lilynick1 1 year ago