response to thunderf00t

i'm not crazy i promise.

link to extortion definition:

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00001951----000-.html

a part i left out for time's sake, but a response to the vaccine issue:

"lastly id like to quickly comment on the whole vaccine issue. let's say that i was wrong on the swine flu, that it is a major threat which isn't being horribly overblown. even if i give you that, nothing changes, this is what you continue to fail to understand. you imply that without the foresight of the state in producing the vaccines that we would have no protection from swine flu. this is utterly absurd. all judgments about how to invest capital necessarily deal with trying to make assessments about what future conditions will be like. all you are trying to say is that the arbitrary individuals who are part of the state for some reason automatically have better foresight than aribtrary individuals who are not part of the state. as i have shown with the traffic light example, not only are state actors not automatically blessed with greater foresight, the mere existence of the state destroys the economic indicators necessary for determining how to best serve consumers. all the state can do is stamp out potential competition and force a one size fits all solution onto everyone, which, as we saw in 1976, will inevitably in disaster. in a stateless society if reputable scientists sounded the alarm about some dangerous new disease then entrepreneurs would start allocating capital based on the judgment that a profit may be reaped by serving future demand, ie, by outcompeting their rivals to best serve consumers. thus, the best methods, from the eyes of the consumers, of dealing with the disease will rise to prominence and be modeled after."

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[IvanTheHeathen]

Your traffic example reminded me of something very interesting I heard a while ago about a particular street in the Netherlands on which there is a big intersection with multiple roads leading into it. This spot has absolutely no traffic laws whatsoever. Instead, people who drive there are left to themselves to decide when to stop, when to go and when to allow or not allow someone to pass. Traffic accidents there are almost nonexistent, to the surprise of many. My memory on this is fuzzy, though

[junior00bacon00chee]

@IvanTheHeathen

absolutely, i've heard of that too. a YT user named guncriminal has footage from one of them in i think sweden.

here is the vid:

v=Su72bF8c2_w

[orange70383]

I know for a fact without a doubt that God is real. If you do not then you are the one preventing it, that's your choice. But if you knew what I know you would rush to know him. He already knows you. If you argue against this then it is only yourself you are bickering with.

[junior00bacon00chee]

@orange70383

i am all ears. theists seem to describe God as an eternal, unmovable, and all pervading presence. I know of only one candidate for this, awareness. i can look at it directly. it is a general presence that does not move while everything else in my consciousness is impermanent and fleeing. it is the only thing which is ALWAYS there, and from which i cannot be separated. is that God?

[MaikUniversum]

wooow, 3:52 USA looks like a giant WHALE!!!!!

[junior00bacon00chee]

@MaikUniversum

haha what the hell? that looks nothing like a whale, unless it's some kind of super deformed america resembling whale. then it looks like a giant whale.

[taibunsuu]

You don't need a god to make or follow a religion.

[Tsicar]

My left ear feels enlightened.

[Gods0n1]

I believe if thunderfoot is for science then should have no problem defending his concrete beliefs of religion and rationality.

[OneCerebralSamurai]

Thumbs-up for the vid!

I am somewhat of a fan of Thunderf00t. I think his videos on creationists and Islam are well done, and should help educate people as to the evils of these doctrines.

However – he really does say some jaw-droppingly stupid things sometimes. I've learned more and more through the years that even for highly intelligent and educated people, ideology usually comes first. Sadly, Thunderf00t is an example of this principle.

[GoldCoinCollector]

I noticed that Thunderf00t marked the video that this one is a response to private. I wonder why...

[hrobertb]

@junior00bacon00chee Have you ever read or listened to Dr. William Lane Craig or Dr. Alvin Plantinga? They are incredibly philosophers of religion (Christian)