Mike Mahler Hormone Optimzation Lecture Part 3

Her is a clip from my hormone lecture at the Collision Course Workshop in 2008. You can lean more about the DVD course at: http://www.mikemahler.com/collisioncourseDVD.html

Category:

Education

Tags:

• hormones
• testosterone
• growth hormone
• kettlebell
• kettlebell training
• DHEA
• Insulin
• fat loss
• muscle gain
• strength and size
• weight training
• hormone optimization
• anti-aging

[7Mefisto]

I''ve just talked with a doctor and he says that the receptors for insulin and growth hormone are not the same since the 2 hormones don't act the same in the body.

Thing is I don't know if there is a top bodybuilder for example that eats once every 6 - 8 hours and doesn't take carbs immidiately after his workout!

[mahler25]

@7Mefisto IGF-1 (insulin like growth factor) not growth hormone and insulin do compete for the same receptors. IGF-1 is very anabolic. There is also not a top bodybuilder that does not take large amounts of steroids so what they do is hardly representative of what a natural trainee should do. Long breaks in between each meal is for optimal health and there is nothing healthy about today's bodybuilder lifestyle.

[7Mefisto]

@mahler25 Ok, I understand, thanks!

[mahler25]

@7Mefisto You have natural enzymes that stop catabolism. They are called systemic enzymes. If you eat, the enzymes go to digest food rather than eat up inflammation. Yes one is more sensitive to insulin after training and it stays that way for several hours after training. The one hour window of opportunity is a myth and one that is propagated by protein supplement sellers.

[7Mefisto]

@mahler25 One last thing, and I'll let you be :)! This trainer says that you are more sensible to insulin after the workout is done (first 45 minutes after the workout), and that is the reason you have to take simple carbs to refill the energy supplies . After 45 minutes , the muscles start becoming more resilient to insulin so you have to take complex carbs.

[mahler25]

@7Mefisto @7Mefisto that has been proven false many years ago. There was a study on Super human radio that showed that if you have a meal within 4 hours of a workout no catabolism occurs. The human body is more resilient and efficient. Moreover, any info coming out of Flex magazine is suspect as all fitness magazines are essentially supplement catalogs as that is who pays the bills

[7Mefisto]

@mahler25 I don't know on what you base your studies , the thing is I want to believe you Mike , but this piece of information is quite new to the world of training. Almost everybody knows that you have to take carbs after the workout is done . So I don't know , it sounds exciting to me at least what you say , but... . I am curious , do you take any other kind of carbs apart from fructose that you recommend during the entire day?

[7Mefisto]

@mahler25 He says that is why it is so important to take carbs after the workout, because it stops the catabolism in it's track .

In Nutrition Timing , he says , 2 doctors sustain that you need:

15 grams of protein + 45 grams of carbs immidiately after the training

for a 90 kg person ( around 190 pounds)

[7Mefisto]

@mahler25 He was the editor of Flex magazine and now at Muscle and Fitness. His name is Florin Preduchin, I'm pretty sure you never heard of him . He is not as renown as you Mike, but I talk with him from time to time on different subjects on training. He says the following in his mail to me :

Insulin increases the permeability of the cells membrane for the carbs

It transforms carbs into glycogen , and takes some of it to the liver

It accelerates the protein synthesis in the muscle

[mahler25]

@7Mefisto I already explained how eating carbs immediately after training blunts the GH response. Who is the renown trainer you refer to and what science is his response based on.