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the current mass extinction event:

"The background level of extinction known from the fossil record is about one species per million species per year, or between 10 and 100 species per year (counting all organisms such as insects, bacteria, and fungi, not just the large vertebrates we are most familiar with). In contrast, estimates based on the rate at which the area of tropical forests is being reduced, and their large numbers of specialized species, are that we may now be losing 27,000 species per year to extinction from those habitats alone."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/03/2/l_032_04.html

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  • To tie this back into Zack's video, we conclude maybe something like this:

    Capitalism operates on competition between individuals, and revealing yourself to others is not part of a Culture of Competition. It is contrary to it.

    This is why we don't know our parents. This is why we feel like we don't "know" our friends. This is why we feel like they don't "know" us in return.

  • yup, spot on.

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  • There are heirloom seed banks, but they won't be enough to repair the horror of what Monsanto is doing...It is also scary to look into what Monsanto's method of industrial pig farming. If money is the only rationale for everything, we are going to destroy the systems that support human and animal existence and call it technological progress.

  • but what about heart disease, diabetes, cancer, car accidents, meth addicts, morbid obesity, prison, these are all factors which might outweigh medical advances of today. Not that they necessarily do but its something that one could actually be honest about questioning.

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  • Sorry about the terrible typos, I'm not wearing my contacts/glasses, but I listened and had to respond ! :P And I also burned my finger horribly.

    I agree wholeheartedly.Though I think we not only need a consciousnesses change, but if we have not collapsed, we need new tech. It's just that we have so much that's useless and wasteful. But everyday we don't crash, we should still pursue tech. Know what I mean? Things are advancing so quickly, the chances of great enviromental tech is high

  • Mt rationality doesn't not include the endless growth mentality. So rationality is a matter of perception. I love being rational. Though from time to time,. I need to enter a psychedelic world sometimes though. That's plenty of rationality for me. (Also dreams, and those moments when I`m going to sleep) Raw bubbling thought. So sweet.

  • so you liked Vandana, ahn? :)

  • Only a point of clarification with regards to capitalism as a prime mover of agricultural destabilization in the modern world, while capitalism certainly has sludge, pesticide, and blood on its metaphorical corporate hands, it important to remember that China and the USSR in their totalitarian communist eras had even more disastrous uncaring bents towards the environment. Maybe Quinn(and Z) is right and it is an inevitable outcome of civilization.

  • The Revenge of Gaia.

  • is that the same fan that was running bad on your macbook? are you back on that macbook is the problem now on your dads old comp? If so, it might be some software you have downloaded on your machine that is keeping the fans on all the time so it doesn't overheat. maybe some performance software or your just running a buncha shite at once.

  • If you reference my above comment you will see no reference to alienation or vague complaints. Actually I gave precise complaints of modern civilization. We are saying that average life expectancy, while important, isn't the last word on quality of life.

  • there is also evidence to show that native people in the americas suffered from an increase of tooth decay that sapped the immune system. The increase is shown to happen as soon as we give them processed and bleached flours and sugars.

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