Dr. Sigmund Freud wasted his entire life by examining humans their inner life. Finally he reached a conclusion which was already in the Bible for approximately 6000 years.......... Man's total depravity!...
@IchtusDeogloria uhhhhmmmmm.... no. as far as i can tell, people were still being enslaved LONG after christianity hit the scene.
what DID end slavery (not directly mind you), and the reason it has only been abolished recently (last 1-2 hundred years) is because of a slowly learned set of morals that came after the secular enlightenment movement of the renaissance.
back in the days when your holy book ruled europe, and was the only authority, was the most wicked times of history. hands down.
Ahhh...., I like the word 'generalize' because that's exactly what your doing.
And yes it's a poor example but like stated before my Holy Book is clearly against slavery. 'How can anyone 'love his neighbour as himself' while promoting slavery? The verses you've mentioned are trying to NOT provoke an uprising of slaves. The result: Graduate peaceful change....
It were Christians like William Wilberforce who put an end to slavery a couple of 100 years ago.....
@IchtusDeogloria no, your logic is backwards. if there was something in the constitution that suggests rape is permitted, then you can go ahead to generalize that all americans are rapists. 2nd, that is a piss poor example because that's not in the constitution while all the examples I gave you were ACTUALLY in your holy book.
And my point is that Christianity has been around for about 2,000 years. how can you make the assumption that slavery was abolished 1700-1800 yrs as a result of christ?
So just because there are some USA Americans who are rapists therefore the constitution of the USA does stimulate rape and all Americans are rapists? Is that what you're saying?
Christianity has put an end to the late 1700's- mid 1800's slavery.
Do your homework and go and study unbiased history.
You're the one who's prejudice and brainwashed my friend not Christians.
On-topic know. Did you watch the video and do you know we are totally depraved. Repent my friend!
@IchtusDeogloria 2nd, they knew nothing. they may have known scripture but they still thought the earth was flat and gravity was demons pulling on your heels keeping you from ascending into heaven.
@IchtusDeogloria that makes absolutely no sense because you are ignoring the plane fact that slavery was carried out by christians. Christianity never stopped slavery, and christians still owned slaves, not that they were the only ones. everyone did up until late 1700's- mid 1800's (depending on which continent you lived on.) thou shalt not kill never helped anyone either because the catholic church still exercised authority to kill for over a thousand years. so it DOES leave room for slavery.
The LORD JESUS wasn't a rebel or a revolutionary but He established the Kingdom in such a manner that changes would take place gradually. Paul knew this and acted accordingly,
'Love thy neighbour as thyself' leaves no room for slavery so like stated before:
Early Christians released their slaves and even sold themselves as slaves to free others. They understood the gospel message very well unlike you my deluded friend therefore end of discussion.
It's not GOD who changed but it's humanity that changed because of GODS wise guidance.
Humans were extemely cruel in the Old Testament period. GOD adapted to that. A child needs to be handled like a child (Old Testament). A grown up needs to be treated like a grown up (New Testament).
But you're probably not able to comprehend this so end of discussion.....
@IchtusDeogloria and furthermore, your claim that god changed his mind about some things in the old book is ridiculous. want an example in the new testament, fine, Titus 2:9-10, I Corinthians 11, for starters.
@IchtusDeogloria "derpedy derp derp doo! do you know the difference between the phrases old and new?"
..... mkay, first off, say "words" because "old" and new "are not "phrases"
second, i don't know why you try to draw a distinction between who god WAS and who god IS. you christians are just so arrogant that think you can put words into gods mouth and expect people to believe it.
and your obviously sexist statement in your last message makes it clear that you are living in the bronze age. =P
@IchtusDeogloria uhhhhmmmmm.... no. as far as i can tell, people were still being enslaved LONG after christianity hit the scene.
what DID end slavery (not directly mind you), and the reason it has only been abolished recently (last 1-2 hundred years) is because of a slowly learned set of morals that came after the secular enlightenment movement of the renaissance.
back in the days when your holy book ruled europe, and was the only authority, was the most wicked times of history. hands down.
silljos1 7 months ago
@silljos1
Ahhh...., I like the word 'generalize' because that's exactly what your doing.
And yes it's a poor example but like stated before my Holy Book is clearly against slavery. 'How can anyone 'love his neighbour as himself' while promoting slavery? The verses you've mentioned are trying to NOT provoke an uprising of slaves. The result: Graduate peaceful change....
It were Christians like William Wilberforce who put an end to slavery a couple of 100 years ago.....
JESUS IS LORD!!
IchtusDeogloria 7 months ago
@IchtusDeogloria no, your logic is backwards. if there was something in the constitution that suggests rape is permitted, then you can go ahead to generalize that all americans are rapists. 2nd, that is a piss poor example because that's not in the constitution while all the examples I gave you were ACTUALLY in your holy book.
And my point is that Christianity has been around for about 2,000 years. how can you make the assumption that slavery was abolished 1700-1800 yrs as a result of christ?
silljos1 7 months ago
@silljos1
So just because there are some USA Americans who are rapists therefore the constitution of the USA does stimulate rape and all Americans are rapists? Is that what you're saying?
Christianity has put an end to the late 1700's- mid 1800's slavery.
Do your homework and go and study unbiased history.
You're the one who's prejudice and brainwashed my friend not Christians.
On-topic know. Did you watch the video and do you know we are totally depraved. Repent my friend!
JESUS IS LORD!!
IchtusDeogloria 7 months ago
@IchtusDeogloria 2nd, they knew nothing. they may have known scripture but they still thought the earth was flat and gravity was demons pulling on your heels keeping you from ascending into heaven.
silljos1 7 months ago
@IchtusDeogloria that makes absolutely no sense because you are ignoring the plane fact that slavery was carried out by christians. Christianity never stopped slavery, and christians still owned slaves, not that they were the only ones. everyone did up until late 1700's- mid 1800's (depending on which continent you lived on.) thou shalt not kill never helped anyone either because the catholic church still exercised authority to kill for over a thousand years. so it DOES leave room for slavery.
silljos1 7 months ago
@silljos1
The LORD JESUS wasn't a rebel or a revolutionary but He established the Kingdom in such a manner that changes would take place gradually. Paul knew this and acted accordingly,
'Love thy neighbour as thyself' leaves no room for slavery so like stated before:
Early Christians released their slaves and even sold themselves as slaves to free others. They understood the gospel message very well unlike you my deluded friend therefore end of discussion.
Repent before.......
JESUS IS LORD!!
IchtusDeogloria 7 months ago
@silljos1
It's not GOD who changed but it's humanity that changed because of GODS wise guidance.
Humans were extemely cruel in the Old Testament period. GOD adapted to that. A child needs to be handled like a child (Old Testament). A grown up needs to be treated like a grown up (New Testament).
But you're probably not able to comprehend this so end of discussion.....
Repent friend before the Day is coming......
JESUS IS LORD!!
IchtusDeogloria 7 months ago
@IchtusDeogloria and furthermore, your claim that god changed his mind about some things in the old book is ridiculous. want an example in the new testament, fine, Titus 2:9-10, I Corinthians 11, for starters.
till next argument.
silljos1 7 months ago
@IchtusDeogloria "derpedy derp derp doo! do you know the difference between the phrases old and new?"
..... mkay, first off, say "words" because "old" and new "are not "phrases"
second, i don't know why you try to draw a distinction between who god WAS and who god IS. you christians are just so arrogant that think you can put words into gods mouth and expect people to believe it.
and your obviously sexist statement in your last message makes it clear that you are living in the bronze age. =P
silljos1 7 months ago