Derrick Jensen - The Fundamental Difference

excerpt from Derrick Jensen's "The Other Side of Darkness" featuring Jeanette Armstrong.

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[thisisnotokay]

how is the life of the tribal wo/man easier than that of civilized wo/man?

I don't want you to have to write a bunch of stuff out - is there like a certain webpage or book you could refer me to? I have an open mind; I just don't see it.

[zzz33333]

definitely. check out "in the absence of the sacred" by jerry mander.

or, "original wisdom" by robert woolf.

or, "the original affluent society" by marshall sahlins.

[40blocks]

I think the point is that world is full of conversations and communication. Westerners deny that they even silence these conversations and pretend they do not exists- but they do. In order to destroy forests and rivers you cannot perceive them as having conversations as communicating you must silence them and then destroy them.

[northernpike56]

Natural world = a place of peace and reflection :-)

[skyjuiceification]

@chesurfdude

i read it and it taught me that western man will stop at nothing to justify destroying the possibility of another future for the planet other than the mad max world america and europe and now china will force feed the rest of humanity. sickening. he tended to make it all seem so inevitable. which nothing is. and its a good thing bad experiments can be aborted.

[skyjuiceification]

@dickelliott01

ur logic is sooo off the mark it aint evn funny. for one this society cant with any stretch of the imagnation be said to have "succeeded". and in its everclueless march "forward" it has dismantled far wiser cultures,which left alone have lasted 20,000 years and would have lasted longer. had the short sited but clever west had the deep understanding to co-habitate instead of run over people that could not resist them with force. good thing faust is on his death bed.

[skyjuiceification]

@12345combination

looks like some one has watched terminator one too many times.

[Sveccha93]

@12345combination Logic doesn't require citation to be sound, and philosophy doesn't require cooperation. I'm not sure what statements he makes that aren't either already accepted facts or his own conclusion. Sounds like you just cherry picked some "fact" about him so that you could brush him off.

[wda013]

@zzz33333

d'accord,

except that the author of "WHAT IT IS TO BE HUMAN, hope lies in our ability to bring back" (1994), re-published as "Original Wisdom - stories of an ancient way of knowing" (2001), since a few weeks available also in German as "Das Lächeln der Senoi: Was es bedeutet ein Mensch zu sein" (2011) is called robert wolff (sic; he prefers his name written in all-lowercase), his website is wildwolff(dot)com

[pretzelzetzel]

@northernpike56 ... for members of modern industrial societies. for members of tribal pre-civilized societies, nature is the world they navigate. it's the home of all of the stresses we experience (the need for resources, social difficulties, etc) PLUS the added dangers which we avoid by living in cities.

[Dreadford1]

@northernpike56

I respectfully disagree. The natural world is not a fairy tale place that is for "peace." Nature is violent and relentless and full of beauty. My point is that it is not "good" for humans because it is a place for "reflection", it is good for humans because it is REAL and and you might get hurt or die or maybe even live for the very first time.

[12345combination]

@shodospring

A misspelling, on my youtube? By a troll? Say it ain't so.

[shodospring]

@12345combination

And you don't know how to spell! (Cited. Sited means located something)

[lympheneas]

why is he talking so fast? ''Nursing all mother. spitting out a trail of termites.''