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response to Penn Says: Agnostic vs. Atheist

There are no agnostics.

You are either a Theist, or an Atheist. Simple as that.

Far too many people don't know what they are talking about when they call themselves agnostics. Penn has a pretty good grip on the matter.

http://www.youtube.com/pennsays

I am just adding a little bit more on the definitions of the words. People need to stop and look up the definitions and etymologies of the words "theism", "atheism", and "agnosticism"/Thomas Huxley

It's all about language. People add to words (very mistakenly) meanings and forms and uses that are completely wrong. People have made "agnostic" a middle ground, and as I show, that is not the case.

I highly recommend reading Atheism: The Case Against God, by George H Smith for a perfect explanation of atheism and agnosticism. It's simple, clear, and allows the reader to understand better where they stand (it's usually atheism and not agnostic).

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  • People just need to look at encyclopedias and dictionaries before making such stupid comments. I love when Atheists define Theism as "the belief in at least one God", and then define Atheism using word construction "A + Theism, thus without belief". Theism comes from teos which means GOD. A + Theism = Zero Gods, Mono + Theism = 1 God and Polytheism = Many Gods. A+Theism do not translate as No belief but No God(s).

  • @DevilMayFry Oh finally, someone with common sense!

  • I'm an agnostic atheist and I'm amazed at these uneducated people arguing that they're "agnostics". Weather you're gnostic or not is not about belief, get over it!

  • I label myself an agnostic. It is not out of fear or out of an attempt to keep an air of dignity about me. Your reasoning is flawed. You state “you either believe there is a God or don't don't”. that simply isn’t true. Agnostics are simply not of a binary belief in the matter.

  • Do i believe there is a god? No. Do I believe there's is no god? No. Do i know if there's a god? No.Do i know if there's no god? No. You put in one term two completely different point of view, people who don't think there's a god and people who don't know. It's like saying: "Do you know if aliens exist? it's only yes or no, you can't say you don't know." Every agnostic are not theist nor atheist, but atheist can be agnostic or not? Come on now

  • Atheists fall on their heads to say there is no god. Christians fall on their heads to say there is a God. Neither side can prove its claim. So which is more logical? I think we know the answer...

  • I believe it's impossible for anyone to ever truly know whether god exists or not (I also believe it's impossible to truly know I'm not a brain floating in a vat). Thus I consider myself an agnostic.

  • @catmeowlover However I still do not believe in these other gods because I have not been subjected to evidence that even remotely suggested that any gods exist.

  • @catmeowlover (Whereas I am) a gnostic atheist towards the classical theistic God, depicted in the religious scriptures as an omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent being, because I believe these attributes ascribed to this god conflict with each other, conflict with the scriptures, and conflict with my knowledge of reality. And so I know that this being cannot exist as described. However I don't know if Zeus or Thor or what have you exist because I don't know enough to be able say either way

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