the republic (distopia)

video/audio
matteo pasin
http://youtube.com/daimon0000

the ideal city is a city of ideas, a city of abstract patterns abstracted from corporeity. crystalized rational souls, utopia against freedom

la città ideale è una città di idee, una città di modelli astratti, astratti dalla corporeità. anime razionali cristalizzate, l'utopia contro la libertà

Category:

Film & Animation

Tags:

• experimental
• utopia
• politeia
• platone
• totalitario
• la
• repubblica
• totalitarian
• plato
• cartesio
• tecnocrazia
• technocracy
• light
• glass
• luce
• vetro
• visual
• videoart
• daimon

[VomitSelf7]

No (or little) oppertunity to justly debate what is right and what is wrong. We are obliged to obey these rules. The world we live in can be seen as a utopia, but only if we do as we're told, otherwise, its a dystopia. There is no escape from a utopian society otherwise it becomes torture.

Your black and white has realy improved. To be honest, I think its some of the best I've ever seen.

[daimon0000]

that's exactly what I meant!

I referenced plato because his philosophy is the archetype of all these contradictions.. he can think and create an ideal city (also an ethic, a right, a good, a true) only postulating it above-beyond-against our material reality.. perfection and utopia are arbitrary and naive abstractions of this world! we can apply a static rational ideal only caging and enforcing flowing life and nature, human freedom included

thanks for the b/w regards, I esteem your opinion!

[grEEnfan8880]

I meant to say where is this city? Is this a literal city some where or only symbolism?

[daimon0000]

it's a literal utopia, an abstract city built with abstractions.. I think it's the only true eternal reality if you're an idealist, else it's a possible prospective of our technocracies, and if you believe in freedom this is a scary prospective

[grEEnfan8880]

The afterlife?

[daimon0000]

the constrainedlife

[jkhgsdhgdhgjklsdhfgj]

"the spaces", being the imagery in genral, the paranoid editing counter balances the flow with perfection (particulary in this one). Werchmeister Harmonies comes to mind, since the first frame, as you tought us so well.

[jkhgsdhgdhgjklsdhfgj]

your best work, in my opinion. I now see the bela tarr link, in the photography, in the crude emotion, the same perpetual and imense sadness of the spaces, yet an insinuation of faith in human emotions, cathartic. Best work so far!

[VomitSelf7]

The threats are nothing more than faults of the government. They may not be specificaly sending attacks on us, but it is little problems that were failed to be fixed. Crimminals (corporate and the regular kind) are failures of the government (unregulated, uneducated, or unemployed, forced to live off lies). We are forced to live off a fixed set of rules or be sent to prison regardless if we think these rules are right or wrong (pot, prostitution, theft (from corporate criminals)).

[VomitSelf7]

If these rules were broken they were brutaly tortured.

The world in 1984 is only an exageration of the worl we live in. In reality, we are not free, we beleive that we are, but we're not. We are forced to work our crummy little jobs or live on the streets and starve to death. The food isn't that bad I admit, but much of it just shit in which the media foce feeds us everyday. We depend on our leaders to protect us against the threats which don't realy exist.

[VomitSelf7]

Its like in 1984. Most people were happy with the government as long as they behaved. They were all given jobs, food to eat (victory taste like shit), entertainment (books written by machines), security (there realy wasn't anything to be protected against other than Big Brother), and places to live (old building which fell apart and were in constant risk of being destroyed). Everyone could have a peice of this as long as they co-operated with the rules that were placed upon them.

[VomitSelf7]

The "easiest" to create a perfect world is to destroy personal freedoms. Without freedom, the state would be able to control every aspect of every day life from when people work, eat, and sleep; entertainment is censored so no one gets any negative messages (relative to the government); and so fourth. If done well, the people would be happy with their simple routine as long as they don't feel like they need anything more.

[LazarusGordon]

quante ombre se bevemo - how many shadows are we going to drink