John Locke (This Night by Black Lab) SPOILERS for season 5 finale

I'm going to tell you a little story. Once upon a time there was a man named Jacob and a man named Smokey. They lived all alone on an island, a special island. So Smokey's job is to protect the island, which means no humans are allowed to come because humans are fated to be evil and corrupt. Jacob, though, believes in free will and improvement and wants to prove to Smokey that people can be good. So he continues calling people to the island even though it angers Smokey. Smokey and Jacob can't kill each other so Smokey promises Jacob he'll find a loophole and get rid of Jacob. Jacob's all "sure, you work on that". Jacob continues to call people to the island, including certain members of flight 815. Smokey, though, notices something special about one John Locke . . . that's he gullible. That's he "amicable for coersion". So he manipulates him, makes him think he's special, that's he supposed to be leader. Even Richard Alpert, a sailor from the Black Rock who has been given immortality to protect Jacob, gets manipulated into thinking John is special. So Smokey works his magic and once John dies, he takes over his body and then proceeds to manipulate Ben and Richard and gets Ben to kill Jacob. Simple, right?

Except for the small fact that for 4 years we, the viewer, have also been manipulated along with Locke. We rooted for him, thought of him as special. When others called him crazy, we thought they just couldn't see what Locke could see because Locke had been transformed by the island. But in reality, Locke didn't change at all. He was still the malleable man he'd always been. And that's how he died. Which leaves us completely shocked and depressed. Great writing, true, but come on, show, why are you doing this to us?!?

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[dgmpepper5]

I don't think he's trying to find a loophole to kill Jacob himself. I think the loophole is simply - hey, I can't kill you, but I could get someone else to do it for me.

[ShatteredOne2007]

We actually don't know where Richard came from, all we know is Jacob made him the way he is (ageless). And from what the writers have said and what given the circumstances, I think Locke is really dead. The only way to bring him back is if the bomb in the past really did change some things in the future.

[xkisame134]

MIB was going to make loche kill jacob but then ben killed loche, so then he instead took to be loche so he could then trick someone who would want to kill jacob and manipulate that person and then get off the island.

[fergiesmaryjanez]

-hyperventilates, whispering- Husbandhusbandhusbandhusband. >.> (at Boone)

[krauseristheman]

with him during his early life. Since i don't think Smokey/MiB can know much about what's happening outside the island's parametres (going just a bit off land, as far as to the ship in s.4 but not further) it's not that likely that he knew about Locke before he came to the island. But when they first met in the djungle, eye to eye, Smokey found his "loophole" and from there on started manipulating John in his own direction, winning over Jacob.

[krauseristheman]

Hey man, this was an extremely good theory to have been thought of before the sixth season even aired. Seems you were right about almost everything, except i wouldn't say that Locke didn't really have a "better" purpose in terms of what's "good". I think Jacob favourised him as his nr 1 candidate right from the start (that is from his birth), thinking of how he sent Richard to watch over/interact

[ChildrenofAmory]

I don't think Jacob or Seth are good or evil. I think they are counterbalancing forces. More like Law or Chaos.

Neither is good or evil, just two opposing forces that manipulate equally.

[ghostgate82]

@ollie8888888888 Actually I think Jacob is the "bad guy" and Seth (Man #2) is the good one. I can't prove this, but it would make sense when you take everything into account. I think Seth was the one who said "help me" in Jacob's Cabin. Only one more month until Season 6 starts and we can finally find out!!! LOL

[ShatteredOne2007]

I respect that view point seeing as how I was formerly a "man of science". I still believe i'm in some respects a man of science, but if there's a medium between science and faith, i'm slightly on the faith side.

And you are wise to refuse to believe the likely scenario since we are discussing Lost. I look forward to seeing Lost pull some random thing that baffles us and everyone else.

[galacticinquisitor]

As likely as that may seem right now, I refuse to believe it until I see it.. I'm a "man of science" in such a respect..

[ShatteredOne2007]

I've always been under the assumption that both Locke and Jack (and Desmond when he was introduced) were the heroes of the story. True, Locke is more proactive in trying to learn about the island, but Jack has slowly become like Locke.

Anyway, I likewise feel Locke was ultimately just a pawn of the MIB/Smokey/Jacob's adversary so that person could use Locke to kill Jacob. As painful as it seems, it seems Locke's 'destiny' was just to be a pawn of a bigger game.

[galacticinquisitor]

Just trying to come up with any way that Locke can still be alive, or at least, that he wasn't a patsy in all of this.. Locke, to me, was always the hero in the story and I hope there's a way he still is somehow..