Atheists or theists: who killed more people?

I've grown tired of the whole stupid argument. In broken english, again, my view on the "atheists killed more people than theists!" or vice versa argument.

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[BetroS83]

If I was an atheist I would kill myself because there would be zero point in living since everything will come to an end. Humans can be so ignorant sometimes; they don't see the big picture. One thing theists and atheists can agree on is that life is only temporary and all will eventually be no more. Jesus is my Lord!!!

[XGralgrathor]

« If I was an atheist I would kill myself because there would be zero point in living »

And other people are less nihilistic than you are, and are perfectly capable of giving meaning to their own lives.

[SDSk8eR777]

@XGralgrathor That's where this worldview logically leads: nihilism - Neitzsche and Camus both realized this; at least they were honest. To think that you have any substantial or objective meaning/worth is just as ludicrous to the theist as belief in God is to the atheist. However, the atheist seems perfectly content living paradoxically: both upstairs where God exists and downstairs where there is only nihilism. Cool tunes in the background, by the way - is it Alice In Chains or Pantera?

[XGralgrathor]

@SDSk8eR777

"That's where this worldview logically leads: nihilism"

1. What "world view", exactly?

2. On the contrary - it leads to the realisation that ones own search for meaning and purpose is important; that it is important that one thinks about such things, rather than shift the responsibility for this search to some imaginary being.

[HaveUconsidered]

Correction: Last two questions in (pt 3) should be statements, not questions. I thought I should "correct" this because not correcting that would leave it "incorrect".

See how that works? Now are YOU starting to "get it"?

[HaveUconsidered]

Pt 3

Jesus says that there IS a truth to be known. He has communicated that truth to us. He said, "I am the truth." He will shed light on your darkness (meanglessness). You will see that you WERE created with a wonderfull purpose; a purpose centered around the love.

Don't you deep down desire this? God loves you and will forgive you for your sins? He wants to call you His son and to treat you like a son?

Read the Gospel of John. It will turn your meaninglessness into joy.

[HaveUconsidered]

Part 2

So do we have hope or is all meaningless? Is there no right or wrong or do you actually disagree with me because you think I'm wrong about certain things?

If you say all is meaningless then that's a "truth claim". You are saying that it is "true" that all is "meaningless" (pointless).

But intrinsically, you know that all is NOT meaningless: that there IS meaning in life; that things like senseless torture, rape and genocide ARE wrong. Deep down you KNOW this to be TRUE.

[HaveUconsidered]

Of course, under your world view, everything is pointless. My point is that your own view is full of contradictions (not paradoxes).

For example, once again you contradict yourself. You say everything is pointless. There is no meaning to life. But then you proceed to say that "we just have error or blessing, hope".

Really? How so? You just said that there is "no right or wrong" and then you say we have "error". You said life was "meaningless" and then you say we have "hope". Which is it?

[czar9109]

Part 2.

So everything is pointless. We will die, Earth will eventually get blown up. And the universe will fade away.

[czar9109]

No, you just fail to see the point correctly. but you are getting there. We can never be correct, nor can we be incorrect. It's a paradox, yes. But that basically means everything is pointless. Even the meaning of life, which is reproduction, is pointless. Because eventually, life will cease, and it's pointless. We just have a human error or blessing, hope. We,, like drones, just stride towards whatever we want to accomplish. While I fully support this, in the end it's pointless.