The High cost of leaving ultra-orthodox Judaism 1

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[hudna1]

If we are singing and dancing to convey our concerns we can all relate better with one another!

[Tomacomo]

@abzgroupinc

anti-religion fanatics don't have any children themselves or like one child, so they want to impose their will on others' children. i appreciate every group, the secular run the orchestras and art galleries in tel aviv, and the haredim guard our ancient scriptures. when they try to impose themselves on one another in ridiculous ways, it is upsetting (i.e. demanding an intel branch close on saturday, or making a gay parade in jerusalem)

[Tomacomo]

@abzgroupinc

Yes I also think that religion has got to stay out of government or it becomes about money and power like the first estate was in france. But no, you are an ANTI-RELIGIOUS FANATIC. I am russian, so i see this shit all the time from people. This anti-religion bullshit is so old, it should have vanished with the USSR. now it's more about materialism vs spirituality, except for anti-religion fanatics.

[abzgroupinc]

@Tomacomo I am a proud Jew. I am not anti religion. I believe that there is some higher power which is not possible for humans to grasp. I am against psychotic fanatics who try forcefully to impose their blind ways on others. That includes the mentally ill people who try to turn Israel into a religious state. Same as Iran. Thank God that thus far they have failed....because sanity has prevailed.

[Tomacomo]

@abzgroupinc

Wow, have you ever stopped to think about how fanatically anti-religious you are? I think imposing oneself on others is disgusting in almost all cases. You trying to change the ways of religious people, to "enlighten them", this is no different than religious people in the past bent on "saving other people's souls". Think about this and stop being so filthy. In another life, you would be an inquisitor. Now you are the anti-religious fanatic.

[Tomacomo]

@tikletik

Wow, have you ever stopped to think about how fanatically anti-religious you are? I think imposing oneself on others is disgusting in almost all cases. You trying to change the ways of religious people, to "enlighten them", this is no different than religious people in the past bent on "saving other people's souls". Think about this and stop being so filthy. In another life, you would be an inquisitor. Now you are the anti-religious fanatic.

[tikletik]

@abzgroupinc Well, I would say that you and the "fanatics" you detest, as well as the mullahs of Iran all clearly have one thing in common. You all seem to think you know better than everyone else, and that the experiences of all other people who do not agree with you are the experiences of fools.

In a nutshell, I'm saying that the problem here is arrogance. Try a little humility.

Think about it.

[abzgroupinc]

@tikletik There is no shortage of insanity in this world... religious or not ... I resent that the Jewish fanatics behave in an insane manner in the name of Judaism. If Moses were to come to life today, he would mow them down with an Uzi for perversion of his ideals. Religion and God were invented in order to make it easier to rule the common people. Some of our brothers take that to an extreme. Unchecked, Israel would become like Iran is today.

[tikletik]

@abzgroupinc You shouldn't be so hysterical. I know children in the Ger Hasidic community who had arms broken and were beaten by Hiloni "men". By your logic, all Hilonim enjoy breaking the arms of 12 year old boys.