The Virginia Tech Chapter of SCCC on ABC's Nightline

Ken Stanton and the Virginia Tech chapter of Students for Concealed Carry on Campus appear on the April 15, 2008, edition of Nightline.

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[filthywalrus]

Gun-free zone = criminal-friendly zone

[cramsa]

Since permit holders can carry in malls, banks, stores etc, why should these people not be able to do the same on college campuses?

If you are work at school, or a student, you should be able to carry on college campuses... as long as you have a permit etc.

[joshballard37]

Yeah (2:57) people don't want to send their kids to a college campus where (of age usually 21 and over) could carry, but parents will applaud their 18 yo kids as they join the military. Why do people have such a miskewed perspective? Even those college kids who said they would feel less safe if students were allowed to carry. Civilian permit holder/21yoa. Military defender of freedom age to join and be armed/18.

[MrDaleaaaa]

are we starting from the piont that someone has the athority to say what another person is or is not to carry..the school is teaching that it is acceptble to assume ownership over another person and tell them want to do .if you tell them what to do and they do it you are resposible for the out come .the outcome in this case was death the anti gunhners are responsible for the outcome here. there might have still been deaths but not naerly so many. they were lied to about how safe it is

[MrDaleaaaa]

@utuber2 ignorance is bliss .i wished i was ignorant so i could be in bliss were do you get yours how much is it

[gnomerroamer]

(cont'd)...of reality. The problem is defusing cultural myths standing against the reality that we could mitigate many social problems merely through a change in social attitudes, but that's darn near impossible. (As a newcomer, I should mention I used to be against concealed's, but pulled a complete 180, and now support them; albeit, for very different reasons (many contrary reasons) to the positions of the SCCC and most of its membership.)

[gnomerroamer]

Have you ever read Rene Girard's ideas about mimetic desire? Very interesting stuff for those trying to understand the American dynamic of everyone arming themselves. His position is basically that desire (for anything, not just guns) is a result of competition and social reciprocation, but it gets very complex and dark once you begin to characterize society as a collection of matrices of these kinds of relationships, ie, as in America where we believe violence is an imminent circumstance...

[utuber2]

Thanks for replying - I see what you're saying. It's funny - in my country, I don't have the right to bear arms, yet I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything. Isn't that strange?

And I live in the capital city where there is plenty of crime. It's not a small town and my area is quite a rough area. But I don't walk around in fear - I probably would if I thought more people had guns.

[Verator]

Edit: Sorry no sleep it should be the other way around. Freedom should never be sacrificed for safety and security. Ever. Sorry again.

[Verator]

Also to answer your question: NO, I could not and will not choose to live in a country where the government has absolute power over me. Firearms are guaranteed in my country to preserve freedom. Safety and security should never be sacrificed for freedom. EVER. I can understand how firearms frighten those who never handle them but please be open minded to the fact that legal firearm owners are law abiding good citizens that carry weapons to protect themselves and others. =)

[Verator]

OK, look at it this way. Your small town in Europe has how much crime? How close are you to a large city or violent area? Those people that are committing those crimes in those areas undoubtedly have firearms obtained illegally. Firearms are guaranteed to us through our constitution to protect us from our own government. We have also been allowed through state and federal law to use them for self protection from those who obtain and use firearms illegally.