New Testament Manuscripts Outstrip Other Ancient Texts

Christian Philosopher Gary R. Habermas explains that the gap between the original New Testament writings and our earliest copies is much smaller than is the case for other works of ancient history

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[Matthew1944]

@metanoeo1 There may be over 14,800, but they contain nothing of any doctrinal importance.

Just a thought, met. If there are that many differences and so many different bibles that include or are lacking many texts - just exactly how do you come to the conclusion that the bible is THE INERRANT WORD OF GOD?

[Matthew1944]

@Matthew1944 - What you consider to be YOUR bible also includes the edited Jewish bible which contains at least 50 differences which are highly significent, just in the Torah. Exactly what do you mean by "doctrinal importance"?

[Matthew1944]

@metanoeo1 The DSS is identical to the Hebrew bible but neither is exactly like your OT. Your "doctrine" was established at Nicea in the fourth century and the NT is based on a pagan man god. The catholic bible has 73 books, the KJB has 66 books, the Ethiopean bible Includes the book of Enoch, and Macabees 1 & 2, the Vulgate bible, The Septuigent that INCLUDES 12 more books in the Old Test. and has LONGER versions of Daniel, Ezeikiel and others, and there are dozens more.

[metanoeo1]

@Matthew1944 I can google and take that info off of a website as well. However, the differences in the earliest manuscripts of the Bible and what we have in today's Bibles show no significant differences. There may be over 14,800, but they contain nothing of any doctrinal importance.

[Matthew1944]

@Matthew1944 Jesus, as a man was preaching within the framework of his own religion, that being Judaism, along with his words that he had been "sent only to the lost sheep of Israel" is believable. Unfortunately, the man Jesus was hijacked and made into a pagan man-god by the NT. Yes, I question any and all fairy tales because they go against all rationality.

[Matthew1944]

@Matthew1944 If Paul was a Pharisee, a Jew - how could he have been born a Roman citizen? It was not until 212AD, that Caracella granted the Jews the privilege of becoming Roman citizens.

Could this be the reason that he was denying that he was lying?

In what I am writing to you, before God, I do not lie! (Galatians 1:15-20)

(I am telling the truth, I am not lying),(I Timothy 2:7).

I am speaking the truth in Christ, I am not lying (Romans 9:1)

[Matthew1944]

@metanoeo1 And you're questioning the authority of the Bible? "

The oldest copy of bibble, the "Sinai Bible" housed in the British Museum ,shows 14,800 differences from today's Bible. Christianity and paganism share the major point - a man god - issue of a virgin and a god.

[Matthew1944]

@metanoeo1 And, Paul was a Pharisee, educated by the greatest teacher in Israel during his time so I'll take his word over your ignorance any day."

Dat Kazav (Lying Religion, or Religion of Falseness) is a Hebrew term Ebionites use to describe Christianity that comes from the 'ish kazav (Lying Man, i.e., Liar) Paul of Tarsus.

[metanoeo1]

@Matthew1944 You quote Celsus, who was supposedly an avid anti-Christian writer, but his alleged writing that Origen allegedly quotes is lost. And you're questioning the authority of the Bible? As for altering original writings, there were hundreds of early manuscripts sent throughout the Christian world at the time and there is no way possible that all of those could have been gathered together and changed. Christianity and paganism differ in numerous ways. What evidence does Saccas present?

[metanoeo1]

@robertobrian6 No, numbers doesn't specifically say "in one day" but if you understand this amazing thing called reading in context, you would see that is a continuing narrative of the what took place and there is no indication that there was any new day, week, month, etc. So, it would be a safe assumption that what took place there happened in one day. And, Paul was a Pharisee, educated by the greatest teacher in Israel during his time so I'll take his word over your ignorance any day.