The Forgotten Cost of "Choice"

The problem legalization didn't make go away. What's it like to see the deaths, and be unable to do anything to make things better?

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News & Politics

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• abortion
• prolife
• death

[leiapeison]

i curious as to the statistics of women who die giving birth is. no medical procedure is without risk. we simply say that women should be able to take that risk if they want to without being criminalized.

[ubermom]

The point is that as long as the abortion is legal, the abortion lobby (the self-appointed guardians of women's lives) doesn't really give a happy shit if she survives it or not. Some of the biggest quacks out there are National Abortion Federation members -- the abortion equivalent of the UL Label. And prochoicers don't hold them accountable for this.

[Pamkay414]

The women who go to abortion clinics make a conscious CHOICE to do what they did and they sometimes end up dead just like their babies.

I have absolutely NO sympathy for those women. Shame on you!

[ubermom]

Marla Cardamone was browbeaten into her abortion by a hospital social worker who used lies and emotional blackmail.

Allegra Roseberry was told her baby was "doomed" because of her cancer treatments, and that she'd not be able to get into a lifesaving cancer treatment program unless she aborted.

You don't know anything about these women, about their despair or fears. You have no idea what they did or didn't understand about their choices.

Without sin? Then start throwing stones.

[ubermom]

Christin Gilbert was mentally disabled, unable to give her consent. Her parents arranged the abortion. But you would condemn her because of a choice somebody else made for her.

[judmeffer]

Sueezee's inability to understand the point has got to be faked - just like her faked concern for the rights and safety of women.

Isn't she the poster who called women who trust the clinics "dumbasses"? She scoffs at the info about the risks, but claims the abortion clinic gives the info, then makes fun of women who are injured or killed by abortion because they didn't research the risks themselves BEFORE going to the clinic, then she's back to scoffing at the info about the risks...

[whoo689]

Abortions happen whether you like it or not. Move the fuck on and stop whining. Abortion has existed since AT LEAST the time of the Egyptians! What do you hope to achieve by constantly bashing abortion choice and groups like PP?? You REALLY think it'll just "go away" with illegality again? You're sorely mistaken.

[whoo689]

It's very presumptuous. At least LIVING beings and humans can consciously say, "I don't wanna die. Protect me." But you anti-abortion folks arrogantly ASSUME that they ALL would wanna "be born" no matter what. You claim being anti-abortion is based on some kind of anti-murder "principle", but it's really just arrogance and presumptuousness. I mean, you're fighting for a group THAT NEVER ASKED FOR IT. Who CARES?? Yes, I don't actively encourage more abortions, but for god sakes...

[whoo689]

Plus, some of you are INCREDIBLY hyperbolic in your language. You act like a fucking fetus, including ones that are a week old or less, getting 'killed' is somehow gonna lead to THE END OF THE WORLD. And hell, these are totally nonsentient beings who have NO IDEA who the fuck you people are, at least until birth (if they're born)! What do they care if they're aborted or not? How would YOU know in particular whether or not they really wanted to be born, esp. if they knew the circumstances?

[whoo689]

And the fact is, for all the crap you hear about PP being a "bad" or "evil" organization that does things like "ignores rape" or even "promotes" it, only 3% of their ACTUAL FUNDING goes towards abortion! The rest are very necessary sexual health services for women. Some of that stuff COULD actually prevent more unnecessary pregnancies and/or abortions when done right. But no, the vast majority of you wanna stand on your high horse, bitch about it, and try to further regulate it by law.

[whoo689]

It just makes you look like arrogant, condescending SOBs with a thirst for vengeance for the fetii that don't actually care about your own cause. I mean, how many actual prolifers in this country have, I dunno, said they'd adopt a pregnant teen mother's child if she agreed to keep it? How many of them gave teen mothers assistance or offered to do so after the child is born to encourage her to keep it?

Not many I'd assume. All you wanna do is bitch about it and do nothing substantive.

[whoo689]

It sickens me that so many anti-abortion advocates do nothing but bitch about it being legal and/or bitch about the women who get the abortions (as well as the abortion doctors) as if they're "sinful" or some bullshit like that, while doing NOTHING to actually help those women to encourage them NOT to get abortions and keep the child, at least to term, if they care SOO MUCH about the fetus!!! Simply bashing abortions and legalization and doing nothing to help women doesn't advance your cause.

[whoo689]

Prohibition of a popular service or product DOESN'T WORK! We've seen it with alcohol, drugs, and so many other things. People will find ways around it, so simply saying, "Let's make it a crime and ban it" does no good. You've gotta get at the ROOT CAUSES of why so many women see the need to have abortions, many of them being very young and feeling desperate, esp. if they have little to no money or job opportunities. THAT would go a long way and do more than regulation.

[whoo689]

PLENTY of women died from botched HOMEMADE abortions before Roe was legalized (as well as legalized abortion in various states before '73). It's a risky fucking procedure, and if a woman's desperate enough, she'll take the risk. It DOESN'T MATTER if abortion is legal or not and provided in a clinic or at home by herself!! Surely you'd understand this, ubermom?

I'm so sick of prolifers who think the ONLY way to "solve" this "problem" is MORE REGULATION or to RE-BAN abortion. Please

[whoo689]

Ook... What is this video implying, that they're ALL the result of abortions? That the doctors "killed" them or some bullshit like that?? I'd like to see the evidence. Plus, I'm sure most of them made the conscious decision to get abortions, so they knew what they were getting into. They took the risk. You have no right to try to "stand up for them" as if they would LIKE you to do it or would agree with your stance. You're using them as political pawns. Ugh

[girl08er]

this video was not meant for making fun of those who underwent an abortion and faced the same fate as the baby, it was meant to show the more detailed truth as to what the risks and outcome of making that choice is. and fyi, after 16 weeks of gestation, the risk of abortion on the life of the woman doubles every two weeks as the pregnancy continues. ie, at 18 weeks it's 2x as risky as giving birth at full term, at 20 weeks it is 4x, etc.