The Voices of Tug Hill, Part 3 of 3

Residents of Tug Hill, NY, talk about their experiences of living with large-scale wind turbines. Part 3 of 3.

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[ronkampnich]

and to the red neck looking feller complaining about the estetics, he's the l5ast house before the flat rock in, on the flat rock road.... take a look at it when you go by, you'll see that the turbines aren't the only thing bringing his shitty looking property value down... clean up the garbage before you bitch about estetics...

[Northwesley]

And for the proponents.... I'm not different than anyone else with a normal degree of common sense. I'd like to see local, residential energy generation and conservation everywhere. Residential windmills, rooftop solar, geothermal, biomass if you have livestock etc. etc. If the Billions that are being put into only Industrial Wind were, instead, put into personal power generation and technology to improve energy conservation, we'd be much better off.

[Northwesley]

Do we need Wind Turbines. Absolutely. But the investment should be commensurate with the efficiency, actual output, and impact on people, community and the environment. The same logic that applies to hydro, nuclear, solar, gas- and coal-fired generating plants should be applied here. Industrial Wind Turbines should go where there is LOTS of constant wind and very few people - JUST like all the other power plants.

[Northwesley]

A lot of people are getting rich on Industrial Wind. But it IS NOT the taxpayers, the communities, the local labour force, or even Ontario that is reaping the reward. It is large multi-nationals (strangely enough often heavily funded or owned by Big-Oil) that are earning hugh profits from implementing this expensive, marginal source of renewable energy.

[Northwesley]

If you have the audacity to speak of the people living within 2kms who have some degree of sleep disruption with the resulting health impacts, you're told that they are all psychosomatic and NIMBYs. Finally, the worst lie of all, the industry actually says that property values increase!! Which is frankly, a bold and utter lie. Nothing is free, everything has benefits and impacts. And I'd feel better about the Wind Industry if they simply accepted that communities pay a price for Wind.

[Northwesley]

This discussion from 2 years ago is the same thing that is going on here. If you stand up and publicly say what's wrong with industrial turbines, you're immediately labelled "anti-green"; if you point out that technology has advanced and new nuclear plants produce 1/10th of the waste of the ones that are currently online, you're told its lies; if you point out that the newest coal-fired plant tech has reduced pollutants by 80%, you're told that you support lung cancer.

[Northwesley]

We're starting to go through this in Ontario now. Here, the local communities have been legally barred from having any say in the siting and construction of wind turbines. They can basically go anywhere that the wind industry chooses if they find a willing farmer to lease his land. Big, big money going to the developers, guaranteed (by the govt i.e. the taxpayers) profitable pricing for 20 years.

[stealthmeth]

@GuzerVideo well said

[stealthmeth]

@carbonfiber00001 They have no place on the ground we live off of. They have theyre place and its on uninhabitable spaces.

[RATHAHONNI]

Nice touch adding the windmill sound in the background of the final message.