Baha'i Faith Prophecy

Baha'i Faith Prophecy concerning the Establishment of the Universal House of Justice of Baha'u'llah and the Kingdom of God on earth that Jesus Christ told us to pray for in the Lord's Prayer.

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[DarthMaul8065]

Only the Hands have the right to determine who the successor of Shoghi Effendi is, according to the Will and Testament of 'Abdu'l-Baha. Most Baha'is are well educated on what happened. That's why they remain firm to the Covenant.

[ojoncom]

ok....so you are saying that the UHJ in israel its nothing but lies..mjm, ok how did you realise that this what you are saying its the true? and now you are trying to star a little war of power, why this grand son of abdulbaha do not clame for what (sound) should be his place to be, where are your main offices? where is this "true" UHJ stablish?

[DarthMaul8065]

Well, obviously you gravely misunderstand the Will and Testament and the Covenant, to your own detriment. As revealed in the Surah of Kafirun: "Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion."

[BahaiFaithVideos]

Darth,

Shoghi explained that the passage you quote

"does not imply that the Hands of the Cause of God have been given the authority to overrule the Guardian. 'Abdu'l-Baha could not have provided for a conflict of Authority in the Faith." The passage quoted furthermore DOES NOT say they are allowed to "determine" anything. You are adding to the Will. They have no Executive. They have no Guardian. They have no UHJ. They've lost the Covenant.

[DarthMaul8065]

The passage from the Will speaks for itself:

"...and these, whether unanimously or by a majority vote, must give their assent to the choice of the one whom the Guardian of the Cause of God hath chosen as his successor. This assent must be given in such wise as the assenting and dissenting voices may not be distinguished (i.e., secret ballot)."

[BahaiFaithVideos]

Darth,

Where does the Will & Testament say that they "determine who the Guardian chose"? Where does Shoghi Effendi explain that this is what that passage means? Please, enlighten us with your references.

[BahaiFaithVideos]

meaculpa,

Paul wrote:

"Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed [greek:sperma:male sperm] of David according to the flesh" Romans 1:3 KJV

What makes you think that Paul didn't proclaim Jesus as a descendant of King David?

[DarthMaul8065]

I didn't say "consent". They are the ones who determine who the Guardian chose. The Guardian did not appoint anyone and that's what they determined. Their determination is unquestionable. It's a safety measure to ensure that self-serving pretenders like Remey could never usurp the Guardianship.

[BahaiFaithVideos]

DarthMaul,

Nowhere in the Will & Testament does it say what you are claiming. The passage about "consent" was explained by Shoghi Effendi; he said it DID NOT give the Hands the right to overrule the decision of the guardian. Don't the people read?!

[mtlpersian25]

baha u llah was muslum

[agahjoon89]

i hope ur not blocking my comments