Atheist/Theist at Their Most Basic

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Let's give this another try; full disclosure, all cards on the table.

Atheism and theism have cultural baggage attached to them, and they shouldn't. Not if we're going to have a rational, reasonable, and accurate discussion. Add nuance with adjectives; don't assume the nuance is inherent to the words themselves.

Do we get it now? Cuz...this is getting old.

...and you really DON'T wanna know how many (23) drafts this video went through. Seriously.

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[naturalistmind]

So if i think that religion is evil then i am an anti-thiest not an atheist?

(not that i would remove someones right to worship, but when you hurt others, thats where my tolerance ends.) And hurting others includes making it harder to research things.anti |ˈanˌtī; ˈantē|

preposition

opposed to; against : I'm anti the abuse of drink and the hassle that it causes.theism |ˈθēˌizəm|

noun

belief in the existence of a god or gods, esp. belief in one god as creator of the universe.

[storekeeper80]

@scarletharlot69 Cool, me too! - not yours, mine!

[scarletharlot69]

@storekeeper80 I agree. I feel rather attached to my foreskin..... :-)

[storekeeper80]

@scarletharlot69 Genital mutilation applies to males as well as females, don't forget. Mutilation of body parts without the express consent of the person is a travesty.

[scarletharlot69]

really don't think you should talk about 'the theists' as if all theists were fundamentalists. Many theists are absolutely in favour of homosexual equality including marriage equality including faith groups here in the UK that have asked for the freedom to marry same sex couples with the same legal standing as het couples. Plus there can be no beating about the bush on genital mutilation

[ErikWithBrain]

It seems that many are in dire need of a Semantics & Discourse class.

[TheVodkaHaze]

@BionicDance I looked up Online Etymology Dictionary, which didn't mention anything of the sort. You just assumed I used Wikipedia.

I'm done with you as well, so I'll probably choose the ignore option, thank you.

[BionicDance]

@TheVodkaHaze And, again, it was used that way SPECIFICALLY to use the word as a pejorative.

Seriosously, I'm done talking to you...I've had enough. You can spew out individual facts, but you seem unable--or is it UNWILLING--to string them together into a coherent whole, to see the larger picture. There is simply no point talking to you if you cannot actually argue from a position of logic and reason, instead trying to win at all costs, truth be damned.

[BionicDance]

@TheVodkaHaze And it doesn't matter HOW theists define faith; what matters is what they DO, not what they SAY they do, and they DEFINITELY believe without evidence. If they don't want to CALL that faith, fine...but that's still what they're doing.

Fact is, you're employing the worst of all possible debating techniques, here, and I'm pretty FUCKING close to not talking to you anymore. Either stop [playing games and be rational and reasonable, or be ignored. Pick one.

[TheVodkaHaze]

@BionicDance Regardless, you need to brush up on your etymology:

Atheism =/= a + theism

Atheism = athe(os) + -ism

Because every time I look up the etymology of this word, that's what I get. It was only until the 2nd half of the 20th Century that atheism became a lack of belief. I don't mind if you use that definition, but your reasoning is flawed.