Muslim and EDL member debate 'The Future of English Identity'

TV Debate - Muslim English Convert and EDL member debate 'The Future of English Identity'

8th May 2010

Modern day politics is governed by a climate of tension and confusion over what constitutes British and English Values. What defines the English culture? Is Multiculturalism a threat to a cohesive society? Can Muslims live in the UK with non-Secular beliefs, under some measure of Shariah laws? Will this really threaten Britain?

What is the future of English Identity?

Show: The Alternative Platform

With guest Panelists:

Paul Williams - English convert to Islam, Senior Member and Speaker for the Muslim Debate Initiative public discussion forum.

Bill Baker - Experienced English Nationalist Activist, organizer of the Harrow Mosque demonstration, former member of the English Democrat party, now member of the English Defence Leauge (EDL) - [Bill is not an official spokesman for the EDL].

Category:

Education

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[weedyak]

im pakistani uk born i dont want sharia law

[QuranTafseer]

@weedyak Subhanallah, brother no one is saying the UK should adopt Islamic law

i would suggest you read the Quran inshallah.

[weedyak]

@QuranTafseer you want sharia law

[QuranTafseer]

@weedyak Every Muslim wants to live under "Shariah" the righteous Path, Islam and shariah are one and the same, but no where in the history of Islam has a Muslim minority forced shariah on the Masses, during the time of the Khalif's they never forced "ISLAMIC" law on anyone i.e. the christians and jews had their own court system even in "spain" when the khalifa was ruling the jews and christians had their own court systems.

[QuranTafseer]

This Debate took place when Bill Baker was Loved by the EDL the reality is Bill is not an extreamist, in the EDL sense, well all you have to do is go on the EDL website. How silly they accuse Rapists of being Muslim? Whilst 1 in 4 women have experienced rape or attempted rape in the UK, with the EDL mentality we can assume that Christian rapists have raped 1 out of every 4 women in the UK? Since Most Brits state they are Christian according to the UK Census. [Not that i would agree]

[Zionutsy]

Talking to that EDL guy is like talking to a lobotomised baboon.

[DoobyStew]

I'm desperately intrigued to watch this but the sound problems are grating through my nerves :S

[Syphonaptera]

@sycamoreok IF you are "educated" then it was done even worst as in america. YOU know NOTHING. SO , the so called "English identity" is only threatened by people living in Britain that spew hate? IF there are non Christians "spewing hate" against Christians they have a just reason for this. You cannot comprehend this also ey...BTW, what University did you attend? For the record, you claim the "english identity"is only threatened by "hate spewing" non-christian religions?

[sycamoreok]

@Syphonaptera you little prick i have studied the issue of european history/migration extensively.in a respected university. earning a degree. i can guarantee you that i have studied more books than you will ever see.........can you comprehend that? dont talk down to me like i am an uneducated hick

[Syphonaptera]

@sycamoreok The fact that at the first moment when the first slaves were imported into britain, the so called british "identity"already lost all of it's facets....but I think you cannot comprehend this....