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[ferechi]

Can somone please help me with this subject? I have seen a few Videos from VenomfangX and dont really understant why some atheists hate him so much. And why is there the possibillity that it could have great negative consequenses for him in the future for his job? Is ther a certain Videoclip from him that might give me some answers?

[johnmciann]

I don't hate him. I honestly pity him.

He wisely removed most of his old videos, but there are still quoted fragments in other people's videos. But, he is back at it. Just watch his channel for more silliness.

[Doubter5]

There's no such thing as "The Lord"...

It's incredible that Believer's invisible friends are more important to them than their spouse, family, friends and/or the rest of Humanity.

And it makes them suseptbile to the many, many con menu who capitalize on that fact.

(And I include "The Church" in that)

[AzmodanKijur]

Your only response is to quote from a book and try to convince yourself that he was never a christian, as if invalidating a significant portion of his life is as easy as sticking your fingers in your ears and repeating "it ain't so"

Yes, the bible makes that passage. So did numerous others in many books. It is a classic tactic of cults, of political movements and race-based hate. It boils down to exclusion via declaration. It is a psychological tactic - it has little to do with a god or gods.

[kylowylo]

Want to say you seem sincere, but I question your motivation. A Christian does not have to leave their faith or be embarrassed of what they have said in the name of truth and God. I am no young chicken and I think that VFX has nothing to be ashamed of ever. Maybe you felt embarrassed yourself before and lost your faith because of it. Maybe it is time to get it back, along with your joy. I do not claim to know for sure but what you say reinforces my own faith in God. No shame in that.

[lolnetsephy]

I find your videos to be very heartfelt and I think we need more atheists like you on youtube. Thank you for making videos.

[ferechi]

....I dont think that if he made me I have any right to say Hes wrong....

Why dont you have a right to do so josiahdallas? (I am not making fun of you, I would really like to know why you think that way)

[ferechi]

((That was a question for josiahdallas))

[ferechi]

What reason do you have to doubt it (besides the Bible phrase)??? If you doubt the fact that John was a real Christian, then you are actually saing that he is Lieing!

[AzmodanKijur]

This is a form of cognitive dissonance, wherein observations about the world around you conflict with what you have come to know and so you disassociate the two in you mind to deal with the inherent contradiction. John has made it clear why he moved away from belief to (what I like to call) reality. Until he did so, he would be described as a "true blue" christian. Now, he has shed the mystic hogwash and renounced the faith.

[AzmodanKijur]

1 John 2:19

Logic Fallacy: No true Scotsman

The quote from the bible means to imply that any that are were christian but then decide to get rid of the superstitious beliefs were never christians in the first place. This runs into the No true Scotsman fallacy. To allieviate your anxiety regarding someone that believed but grew out of it, you change the criteria for being a christian such that they no longer fit your definition.