NH: Rival government forming? 2 of 2, New Hampshire

Sponsor: http://NHLiberty.org - Part 2 of 2....Is it better to build a better mousetrap than fight the existing, failed model of government?

Part 1 is at
http://www.youtube.com/user/RidleyReport#p/u/10/XVRsyc7YJTE

Details regarding the planned government surveillance cameras in Dover:
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Details on Keene activist going to jail:
mercer jail http://freekeene.com/2010/01/31/another-free-keene-supporter-to-be-jailed/f

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[wind0wninja]

@Killedkennyagain So far none of these 'liberty groups' running around out here talking about freedom, get it. Because if they did, they'd be doing it. People just seem to want to bitch and complain about what 'should' be. Well I don't have time for what 'should' be. I only have time for what is 'self evident'. As in, "We hold these truths to be self evident..." What is self evident is all that matters as far as self governance goes. So how much responsibility are you willing to accept?

[wind0wninja]

@Killedkennyagain A citizen is a subject meaning one who is subject to another. So for you to say, "I'll be a citizen of myself" is incoherent as any thought gets and to say you're into "true self governance and self ownership" when you don't even understand the most basic maxims of self governance... Let me put it this way... If what you are doing is contradictory to what you are saying?; Can anyone else be expected to hear what you are saying over the top of what you are doing?

[wind0wninja]

@Killedkennyagain You cannot be represented... Representation is a fallacy if you need representation you're the one telling the universe at large that you are unfit to present yourself. It doesn't matter if you hire an attorney or vote for a representative. The represented are all deemed wards of the court/state meaning you're a child having no rights or a person of unsound mind. Which one are you?

Who would not be competent to administer their own affairs? Only the incompetent.

[wind0wninja]

@Killedkennyagain "to assume among the powers of the earth a separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and natures creator entitle." These immoral words have been enshrined in both the US Declaration of Independence and the UN charter. So if you're not self governing, it's obvious you're not self governing otherwise you would possess a 'separate and equal station'. You would not be E Pluribus Unum. You would not be subject to the provisions laid out by an external government.

[wind0wninja]

@Killedkennyagain Fine, point by point... No man is an island. What don't you understand about that? Can you thrive here on planet earth without the help of others yes or no? Historically man kind has always joined with others in order to meet the laws of necessity. They formed societies to conserve their existence. Can you show me a successful existence which did or has not adhered to the principle? To anyone who understands the principle, "No man is an island" is all I should have to say.

[Killedkennyagain]

@wind0wninja Or, you were just not as clear as you think. I could break it down for you and explain why each sentence is incoherent (ignoring spelling and grammatical errors), but I cannot do it in 500 words.

[wind0wninja]

@Killedkennyagain If that doesn't make sense to you then you're not fit for self governance.

[Killedkennyagain]

@wind0wninja That makes absolutely no sense.

[wind0wninja]

@Killedkennyagain Okay well men learned long ago that no man is an island unto himself, that for lasting peace and prosperity men of good will and like mind must band together, unite, and organize to conserve it's existence. And, to assume among the powers of the earth a separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and natures creator entitle. Not sit around chanting "live free or die", cuz that ain't gonna cut it. If you want to self govern, you must govern. You cannot be represented.

[Killedkennyagain]

@wind0wninja True self-governance and self-ownership.