@GodSaveOurTeam but the set pieces and rucks can be so 1 dimensional depending on game, like when a team tries to starve posession from opposition and device millions of phases just to do a drop goal or milk a penalty to attempt a penalty kick at goal, and sometimes both teams will use this tactic all game (northern hemisphere teams especially)
@GodSaveOurTeam Not so. The "skill" of lineout is what? Similarly with ruck and maul? Indeed kicking out on the full is applauded in U and penalised in RL. U can't elevate mediocrity to the level of appreciable skill and expect to gain credibility. The lineout, ruck, maul and U scrum are self contained elements that allow a breather to occur for players. None of these contribute to the true multi dimensional skills of playing entertaining Rugby that result in tries and stout defense.
But you can see what he means - however patronising it sounds.
League requires higher levels of skill in a smaller number of areas: League players do not need to ruck, to scrum, to maul, to line-out etc.etc. so it's no surprise that in the areas of speed off the mark and off-loading out of the tackle (etc.), League has a superiority. That quality doesn't equate to being multi-dimensional though.
@thecallan008 eng need to keep there hands out of the super league and develop there own talent, but yet they say union players are more skilled and talented. super league eng need to take australias lead and tell the union teams to fuck off and look for talent in there poshy private schools and colleges.
@thecallan008 only nz wales n some pacific island countries have rugby as there no1 sport, and rugby league is growing at a really fast pace in new zealand due to aus taking them into our comp and training them. union is almost non existant here in australia and the union teams mouthes water over the thought of scouting our league players which is where all our talent is, even sonny bill williams is apparently getting bored of rugby and has already had chats regarding coming back to aus league.
@thecallan008 rubbish union is the no4 sport herei australia, only a couple of guys from league went to union here and made the wallabies instantly over there other candidates for there position who have played union there whole life, and this was when we were the world champions, so our union squad was very strong and consistantly beat the allblacks, yet everyone of the converts got bored and returned to league.
@NorthernUnion13 Nah im not jelous of league. Im sure your jelous though that rugby union is far more popular than league. Only 3 countries take league semi seriously (Aus Eng Nz). Every other country doesnt give a shit about league even Aus Nz And Eng care more about Union lol. So no im not jelous......
@349quinman Really? Carney took 1 month and 16 days to be picked for Ireland. Chris Ashton 15 tries in 18 England games. Iestyn Harris took 11 days to walk in to the Welsh team. Vainikolo 5 tries on his Union debut. Jason Robinson was the only reason many turned up to watch England. Most RL players go to Union for the money and to wind down their careers. In a pedestrian game of some 32 mins of play out of 80 and where kicking out on the full is a "skill" RU is where RL puts on it's slippers,
@GodSaveOurTeam But like i said depends on the match itself.
ceebowone 2 weeks ago
@GodSaveOurTeam but the set pieces and rucks can be so 1 dimensional depending on game, like when a team tries to starve posession from opposition and device millions of phases just to do a drop goal or milk a penalty to attempt a penalty kick at goal, and sometimes both teams will use this tactic all game (northern hemisphere teams especially)
ceebowone 2 weeks ago
@GodSaveOurTeam Not so. The "skill" of lineout is what? Similarly with ruck and maul? Indeed kicking out on the full is applauded in U and penalised in RL. U can't elevate mediocrity to the level of appreciable skill and expect to gain credibility. The lineout, ruck, maul and U scrum are self contained elements that allow a breather to occur for players. None of these contribute to the true multi dimensional skills of playing entertaining Rugby that result in tries and stout defense.
terrortorn 2 weeks ago
@ceebowone
But you can see what he means - however patronising it sounds.
League requires higher levels of skill in a smaller number of areas: League players do not need to ruck, to scrum, to maul, to line-out etc.etc. so it's no surprise that in the areas of speed off the mark and off-loading out of the tackle (etc.), League has a superiority. That quality doesn't equate to being multi-dimensional though.
GodSaveOurTeam 2 weeks ago
bwahahahaha @ stuart barnes "rugby league is 1 dimensional"
ceebowone 2 weeks ago
@thecallan008 eng need to keep there hands out of the super league and develop there own talent, but yet they say union players are more skilled and talented. super league eng need to take australias lead and tell the union teams to fuck off and look for talent in there poshy private schools and colleges.
ceebowone 2 weeks ago
@thecallan008 only nz wales n some pacific island countries have rugby as there no1 sport, and rugby league is growing at a really fast pace in new zealand due to aus taking them into our comp and training them. union is almost non existant here in australia and the union teams mouthes water over the thought of scouting our league players which is where all our talent is, even sonny bill williams is apparently getting bored of rugby and has already had chats regarding coming back to aus league.
ceebowone 2 weeks ago
@thecallan008 rubbish union is the no4 sport herei australia, only a couple of guys from league went to union here and made the wallabies instantly over there other candidates for there position who have played union there whole life, and this was when we were the world champions, so our union squad was very strong and consistantly beat the allblacks, yet everyone of the converts got bored and returned to league.
ceebowone 2 weeks ago
@NorthernUnion13 Nah im not jelous of league. Im sure your jelous though that rugby union is far more popular than league. Only 3 countries take league semi seriously (Aus Eng Nz). Every other country doesnt give a shit about league even Aus Nz And Eng care more about Union lol. So no im not jelous......
thecallan008 3 weeks ago
@349quinman Really? Carney took 1 month and 16 days to be picked for Ireland. Chris Ashton 15 tries in 18 England games. Iestyn Harris took 11 days to walk in to the Welsh team. Vainikolo 5 tries on his Union debut. Jason Robinson was the only reason many turned up to watch England. Most RL players go to Union for the money and to wind down their careers. In a pedestrian game of some 32 mins of play out of 80 and where kicking out on the full is a "skill" RU is where RL puts on it's slippers,
terrortorn 3 weeks ago