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Uploaded by on Dec 23, 2006

My response to The Blasphemy Challenge, as well as a new Challenge for believers.

NOTE: Do not drink poison! Despite what it says in the bible you will be hurt (which is the point of the joke I was making). If you somehow really believe the claims in Mark 16, heal an amputee or someone with AIDS instead. That's a win-win; you show the sign of a believer from Mark 16 (and blow my mind), and the amputee is very thankful.

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  • There are many instances of healings in the history of Christianity. As for drinking poison/Draino, what if some fundamentalist took you up on it and died? I suggest you do some field research in Appalachia if you're that interested in snake handling.

  • @WinteRest49 yes I'm quite aware of the stupids in some places in the country that get hurt in various ways due to misplaced faith in an old book. In my reply video I clarify what shouldn't need to stated-- that nobody should actually try to drink poison. Also note that I'm not the one that wrote the bible and made the absurd claims people are getting hurt over--so put responsibility where it belongs.

  • @MystryBox I'm going to drink Mezcal on New Year's Eve. Does this qualify as poison? Secondly, I hold you personally responsible for the contents of Mark 16. Seriously, I read along time ago in footnotes that the passage was a later addition to the gospel. Even so, "later" is still first century and Mark is canon. The intention of the passage becomes interesting.

  • @WinteRest49 I can't tell if you're serious or not. I assume not but believers can be nuts so it's difficult to tell sometimes.

  • Well, of course don't drink poison.

    The testimony of "them that heard him" was accompanied by Divine witness Heb 2:1-4. It was quite a specific phenomenon granted to a few who "waited" Luk 24:49 Act 1:4 and to some Gentiles during that time.

    Paul had declared that these things would cease 1Co 13:7-9, and the power of the kingdom won't be seen again until Rev 12:10, "when that which is perfect is come".

  • @PrinceWalter Reading 1Cor it isn't obvious to me that Paul is saying those signs would cease. And it's not me you need to convince anyway as I don't believe Paul (who never even met Jesus but just claimed a vision) or any of the rest of the NT authors (most of whom nobody even knows for sure who they were!). You need to convince the Christians out there rolling around the floor babbling incoherently and otherwise acting like such things haven't ceased.

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  • @MystryBox I was joking about the Mezcal and you being personally responsible for Mark 16. I was serious about looking further into the passage. I am a believer and 'am nuts, but that's beside the point.

  • @sora364 I didn't write the bible, I'm only quoting it. If you think another part of the bible contradicts what this part of the bible says, well it wouldn't surprise me as the bible is full of such inconsistencies.

  • We do not do that the same reason Jesus did not jump off the highest point of the temple when Satan tempted him to (much like you are doing) Satan reminded Jesus that scripture affirms the angels will save him if he is the Son of God, and he shall not touch the ground. Jesus countered with Matthew 4: "Do not test your Lord God" Translation: DON'T CHALLENGE GOD. We shall not yield ourselves to death merely to "test drive" God's word. 

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