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Peak Moment 158: The corporate capitalist system is destroying people and the planet. Can we imagine alternatives? Ravi Logan and Jason Schreiner's model is based on valuing our interrelatedness and interdependency within the natural world. It replaces profit-driven with cooperative enterprises, and emphasizes a balance between local self-reliance and bioregional networks, with some global structures to meet global needs like telecommunications. They describe applying permaculture principles like the zone approach in on-the-ground projects in Eugene, Oregon. (www.proutinstitute.org)

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  • Monetarism is the problem here, not the free market. The way our monetary system is rigged incentivizes profit by any means, and it makes infinite economic growth "necessary". All popular ideologies are based on monetarism, this includes capitalism, communism, socialism and fascism. So don't delude yourself that a communist utopia or something would be a better choice, we tried it in the Soviet Union and it failed, just like monetarist capitalism has failed.

    What we need is something fresh.

  • @johan404, I'm right with you on infinite growth. I see it destroying the planet. What would something fresh look like?

  • I find this so disturbing that I'm dropping my subscription to this channel.

  • Sorry to see you go, Sonar37. At PeakMoment, I'm trying to present various responses to resource and ecosystems decline as industrial civilization continues its collapse. I don't expect you to agree with all of them, but hopefully there are some good ideas among them.

    Any big "ism", any state, can justify genocide: the U.S. is doing it (mostly overseas) in the name of democracy. What I hear from these guys is small, local, self-organized -- the entire opposite of Big Brother.

  • having gown up under communism, I hope that it s not going in a circle an sneeking back in again. I thought the peak movment is about just becoming more green. Well you what they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

  • Hi folks ~ our objective is to present other possibilities. I think the big -isms (socialism, Marxism, Fascism, communism, corporatism, industrial capitalism) involve top-down overnment institutions and coercion. The kind of cooperative society these guys suggest is small, local, grassroots -- perhaps like the Mondragon cooperatives of Spain.

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  • Weather this is fact in every case, there is substantial evidence to prove the corporatism argument, Solution?

    Perma-culture.

    boycat Commercial Corporatism

    Protest all things non healthy for your mother earth or your Bill of rights.

    Learn and practice the Constitution and memorize the bill of rights.

    Teach law enforcement locally on up the bill of rights so they no longer are collection agents for the Corp(s)e

    This is common sense.

    Honestly do you trust the Government anymore?

  • You're wrong on this one. The global Prout network has never been inspired by communism. In India, Proutists have been brutally treated by communists. Communism is based on a materialist worldview, Prout by a spiritual-humanist one. From their base up, these are two very, very different political philosophies. As Prout supports markets and incentives, can it then be called capitalism? It is the same superficial reasoning.

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  • @TheNoble7 I'm so fuckin confused...what are you talking about?! Was that comment for another video?

  • @xtaxplayer I explain that as a free person you have the right to what you need. If I invited you into my home I am sharing my "Oxygen" with you. But do I have the right to force my way into your home go to the dinner table and take 28% of your food? Or do I have the right to break into your home and reside there? These are more exact questions. What gives you the right to tell me what I can or cannot use? How is it that you believe you are better, more powerful than any other human being?

  • @xtaxplayer You're still thinking from a scarcity mindset, and assuming we'd still be using monetarism. What we need is a system that incentivizes sustainable abundance, then sharing would not be a problem because there would be no incentive to hoard. Who hoards air for example? Will you allow me to use 28% of the oxygen in your house?

    Right now the assumption is that we have infinite resources, that they can be wasted and that scarcity is good, because it increases profits.

  • @johan404 Of course not, but "Social Sharing", who enacts the it? Do you have the right not to share? if you are forced into duty, be it monetary or personal service are you not being forced into servitude, hence slavery? I donate of my own free will many different ways at many different times per year. But, I don't want or need anyone telling me 28% of my income needs to be taken and a portion will be used to support others, this is servitude or slavery. Nice try to mislead others of free will.

  • @peakmoment Well, the opposite of the current system. A society where creating sustainable abundance is the incentive, where we give instead of take, where we cooperate not compete. The profit motive is obsolete, people don't create art because they want to profit, art is a gift. Not saying this would be perfect but a step in the right direction. I think the biggest challenge here would be a shift in human conciousness, for people to switch off their "lizard brains".

  • @xtaxplayer What if you work to support another by choice, because you are generous. Are you then a slave?

  • Social sharing and one humanity, interdependency. The welfare of one equal to the welfare of the whole? That is great if all are equal workers, but not all are equal workers. Welfare equal to ones contributions is the true meaning of being free. If you are working to support another you are a slave!! If you are working for your own need's and desire's, then and only then are you FREE!!! Don't let the soft talker's trick you into socialism or communism.

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