The March for Democracy

The ballot box is'nt working so vote with your feet!
John Key has wasted $9 million and ignored 1.4 million votes. He's got it coming boots and all.
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• John Key
• The March for Democracy
• referendum

[grannman]

what on earth do you mean changing "reasonable" to "inconsequential"?

'Why not this issue' would be a rational question.

If you are willing to take a stand against democracy feel free to trot off to China where the authorities would love to have you.

[Shizzlebee]

False in every regard. The leader expected 50,000 people to show up? What the heck you thinking to manufacture lies like that?

How about you try reading the law . Disciplining with a smack is illegal. If someone reads the law and doesn't come to that conclusion they aren't fit to vote.

[viperchris34]

I don't know how the people who acted in this ad sleep at night.

[grannman]

It's nice being able to recognise injustice from justice as it is clearly a trait some of us are unfortunate enough not to share. So democracy involves some misguided persons view of what entails protection for minorities but inexcusably ignores the majority. You can concoct whatever conspiracy you want and I'll leave you and it in the loony bin where it belongs. It is a sad day when a select few misguided individuals actually think they are doing a benefit by oppressing the majority.

[fortydayweekend]

Ah, it must be nice living in a world where everything is black and white and everything you disagree with is a conspiracy against you.

Back in reality democracy involves consultation and compromise and unpopular decisions and protection against the majority. But that's cool, keep believing in the definition of democracy you got from the back of your Weetbix box.

[grannman]

I don't have kids. I valued my childhood and I love my parents. There is no way that their actions today should be criminalized under law pure and simple. Go off on a tangent, I'm not following.

[louisebee86]

Oh, lord. you're comparing us with communists now?

Wow, I just thought you were someone who knew very little about democratic process and just REALLY wanted to smack your kids. But you've officially entered the realm of crazy.

You poor thing.

[grannman]

It is an example of the tyranny of the minority and a very applicable parallel to the injustice NZ is facing today.

[grannman]

The original law would have stopped children being forced to return to abusive parents without blanket criminalising good parents. It's like someone while they were drunk got the idea to criminalise all and sundry. Good parents not being prosecuted or convicted has nothing to do with the fact that they are criminals when disciplining with a smack.

[louisebee86]

That's because communism isn't a democracy.

[louisebee86]

It's already saved children from being forced to return to abusive parents.

But as we've said before, no good parents have been prosecuted. That's what an objective investigation has found, and that is why John Key isn't changing the law.

Honestly, if you put this effort into real problems, like climate change, maybe we'd get somewhere.

[grannman]

Except that instead of saving anybody it criminalises good parents, spits on democratic process, and ignores the fact that child abuse was illegal under the previous law. Yes indeed, the anti-smacking bill is a nasty piece of undemocratic garbage.