The Social Contract
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You may have a point to a certain extent, but unfortunately, in this age 'might is right'. Therefore, fairness is secondary. As Bill Gates said ' Life is not fair, deal with it'.
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Think of it this way guys. If you don't feel like you should pay taxes to support the military invasions of other countries, and I'm sure many of you don't, what would happen?
Do you think that you should have the right to opt out of paying those taxes? Do you think that enough people might agree with what they're going to that they decide to pay them anyway? For instance, if there was a push to protect people from genocide, how hard do you think it would be to get people to opt in?
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@JacobSpinney This state existed long before you were even born, it didn't impose itself upon you. You choose to remain living it that state's territory. If you wish to live some place that is not state organized than it is on you find yourself such a place. You aren't held here by force. You have a choice. Society isn't obliged to change the fundamental ways in which it operates to accommodate you, nor is the state obliged to abolish itself to accommodate you.
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@JacobSpinney What a joke. Take Yellowstone: if it was in private hands it be more profitable to open it up for development as a source of geo-thermal energy generation, since making a profit is the primary objective that is what would happen to Yellowstone. As for how the state obtained its territory, true some was obtained by conquest and some was purchased. In today's world it's not considered acceptable to obtain territory by conquest but that doesn't undo past territory acquisitions.
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Nevermind. I've got it. The planet is just a huge example of the "tragedy of the commons" which is really just a fancy way of saying that all humans will either die out some day or evolve into something else to deal with resource depletion. Thus, pretending to own something is a coping mechanism that humans use to deal with the fact that life has no meaning. How pleasant.
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This whole idea of land ownership has me at a loss. How can anyone own land at all? Would historical records show who made use of the land first? If this is the case, then how would land be distributed equally seeing as almost everyone would be able to make some sort of historical claim to all the land? We own ourselves, but cannot survive with out the planet, so it would seem as if the planet owns us more so than we own it. It's like a dog marking his master or something...I'm so confused.
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Excellent analogy of the difference between the population of a country and the government of a country.
It is difficult to get some people to accept that the country of a country is *not* identical with the population of the country.
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this is kinda random but ur hair is FUCKIN AWESOME!!! lol
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so all those people who own land that they are not making use of should lose that land? if you own 5 houses how can you make use of all of them? surely you can only live in one house at a time? what about nature reserves? national parks? didn't americans fight and win all the land of the USA? you american's surprise by the length you will go to make sure poor people don't get health care and you don't have to pay taxes
FreeBornJohn1600s 2 years ago
No.
Are you the one who devoted the time/money/effort to creating those 5 houses? Then you own them. I did not say that you have to live in a space to claim it, but merely make some kind of use out of it.
I'm sure there would be plenty of people who would buy up a nature reserve/national park and keep it just the way it is and perhaps make it a tourist location.
Is that really how you think we should claim land? Give smallpox to the current inhabitants and plant a flag in their corpses?
JacobSpinney 2 years ago
Do you really think that I hate poor people? Do you really think that I enjoy seeing people suffer and die of curable illnesses?
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