Re: Re: Re: Re: Debate series: Christianity vs. Islam

Response to Aaron Spencer

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[T1984G]

How could Jerusalem pierce God? When they pierced Jesus. Why would David & Jerusalem mourn as if he lost a son? Because a Jew would be a son of Jerusalem. Specifically, David would mourn because the Messiah was prophesied a son of his bloodline. Lastly as one grieves for a firstborn because he was the first and only Son of God delivered to suffer for our sins. This is all old testament.

[webdawah]

Reading the reference you provided, "pierced" is not literal. Pierced means offended. The inhabitants of Jerusalem will mourn for David as one mourns his first born child is referring to the first born son of David that died during his lifetime. There is still reference to the house of David mourning by itself in verse twelve.

[T1984G]

The new testament was taken to the Jews, hence Messianic Judaism. Through the first testament Yeshua is found to be the Messiah. Zecharia 12:10 "And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me, whom they pierced. Yes they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for him as one grieves for a first born.

[webdawah]

You are entitled to your opinion, as much as I'm entitled to mine. I don't subscribe to the opinion that the Bible is the pure word of God either....simply because I have read it.

[regardingwave]

Ive read the Quran, but I don't subscribe to that opinion brother. But to answer your question; I dont believe so because the name Yahweh does not appear in the Gospels. If they were privy to it they did not disclose it, opting instead to use common references of the time in relation to the words God or Father. Peace.

[webdawah]

The Qur'an is also revealed scripture. The Greek speaking scribes who wrote down the New Testament do not have this name either?

[regardingwave]

It simply cannot be. There is no other revealed scripture. God revealed His Name to Moses in the ancient hebrew tongue. Also, there are no more Jewish High Priests that any longer possess this information. At least that is what scholars and historians today claim. Peace.

[webdawah]

I see, so in what way, shape or form will anybody be able to find this name in another language, or another revealed scripture?

[regardingwave]

yes the priests of the caste of Aaron and their descendants all the way down to the time of John the Baptist who was a descendant of Aaron until the destruction of the 2nd temple in 70ad. It is these same priests (from Aarons time to the 1st century) that transcribed the books of the Old Testament. If you want more info i will email it to you.