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@TheStinkfister Huzzah! Take note, rest of Internet.
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@davethehostage Common ground successfully achieved, I %100 agree.
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@TheStinkfister Oh, I don't deny that "metalcore" has become a bad word as of late. 90% of the time, you'd be right to label a metalcore band as unlistenable garbage.
Converge have on various occasions referred to themselves as "metallic hardcore" - which is really just splitting hairs. And while Cave In have indeed gone through many different phases, this album is undoubtedly a metalcore landmark.Bands like these set the scene for what those trendy kids would eventually ruin.
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@davethehostage Subgenres are differentiated in definition region to region I guess. Metalcore as I know it are bands that alternate crap, sing-songy metal with hardcore, growly voiced metal. All That Remains, Killswitch Engage, etc. Converge is strictly hardcore. Cave In is too fucking good to label at all, honestly. You have to admit, metalcore has become a negative word in the last few years. If I am totally off base, I accept that, but the state of metalcore today=awful.
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@TheStinkfister Are you kidding me? Cave In and Converge are pioneers of metalcore. Just because modern metalcore bands have tarnished the name of the genre, doesn't make these guys any less metalcore. "Metalcore" simply means mixing metal and hardcore, which is exactly what this is. Botch, Dillinger, Cave In, Converge - all great metalcore bands. You don't have to disown the genre as a whole just because modern acts turned it to shit.
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I really am befuddled at Converge and Cave In being called 'metalcore' in some comments. Metalcore is reserved for shit music. Use the label accordingly. There is no semblance to metalcore in Converge's music anyway lol.
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As I Lay Dying suck balls friend
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@blotchy67 Why even compare the two bands?
Are you kidding me?? This band was what those bands wish they will never be. As I Lay dying!! Pssssssss.....
echosandwaves 2 years ago 38
get the fuck out of here with this shit. Those two bands sound nothing like these guys, and shouldn't even be in the same sentence as this band.
Jimbeanerss3 2 years ago 28