@vincent4500 Wow, you speak as though you know me, and yet you know nothing about me. You've come to all this conclusion from just a couple of conversations. I was not always a christian. But unlike you, I never let religion stop me from finding the True God of all Things. Seams to me, I'm speaking from your own words here, That you have made the same error as many do. You have created a God who fits your thoughts, and understandings, Instead of the God of the Bible, and His son Jesus.
there is a logical possibility that the being who created all this is , shall we say playing doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde..not pleasant , but still a logical possibility...did you ever entertain that in a cool computer-like level headed way...i doubt it because you blind yourself to such things as they scare you.I'm stronger...religion is for the weak, every form of it has a purpose in their goal.being who runs the show made us for his entertainment, like a cat playing with mice...=equally possible
@poftc sorry man but Bill Cooper stated that if it was possible to prove religion logically then it WOULDNT BE RELIGION ...what he said is where Im at, just the fact it adds up with biblical prophecy is NECESSARY but not SUFFICIENT to prove it is biblical...Cooper stated that logically either elites enacting this for some bizarre unknown reason or there is a God...he WOULDNT COMMIT HIMSELF..I know everything he said and believed..he was empirical, youre just desperate so blind yourself
sorry but you blind yourself to other possibilities...pure logic looks at each and every possibility...religion is a tool of manipulation, the final red pill is that they made it look like its possible to be saved and that christianity is what its about.deceit is deeper..i studied the bible trying to be a christian because I thought it added up.but the more i studied more i realised somehting is wrong...for a start 99.9% of christians wont be saved who are confident they will be, thats biblical!
@vincent4500 I also am logical. And as a logical person it still amazes me how someone can have all the evidence set in front of them, and yet they still find reason to deny, or argue. These are not claims that can't be backed up. These are facts. And as William Cooper said. Take no ones word for it. RESEARCH it for yourself. Who by the way was a Christian. This matter is between you and God, not me, or any man. Be Well. TIM
youchristians cant even decide on what the 'seal' is , Ive heard a convincing argument that the 'seal' is having faith and trust in jesus and repenting...there is scripture that backs this up also....typical of bible that you can argue almost any point and it will sound convincing..thats why i cant be a christian, i think too logically.
@poftc this is what you are ASSUMING is happening behind closed doors because you believe this is what is going to happen...Im not saying it wont happen but i dont like people (as Bill Cooper stated) making claims which they can't back up and verify ...it devalues their whole point.
@vincent4500 No one is enforcing it yet. They are lobbying for it. Speaking to the U.N. about it, and the globle Goverment, religion is pushing for it. Most don't relise that most states have laws still on the books about Sunday Worship. Laws that were put there long ago when they pushed for it.
@poftc hold on , i am NOT aware of Government enforcing any oppressive laws on us yet to make us worship on sunday- you are anticipating something that hasn't occurred yet..IF it does happen then what you say may be appropriate....i think it may happen, who knows..
@vincent4500 Hello. Yes. Saturday has been and will always be the 7th-day. And the powers that be are trying to pass and enforce Sunday observence laws now. Remember God said THE 7th-day, not A 7th-day. And that it is a 10 Commandments Law, not a Mosaic Law. And we are to Keep the 10 Commandments, not because this is what saves us, but because this pleases, Him and He knows what is best for us. God Bless, and Happy Sabbath. TIM
@vincent4500 Wow, you speak as though you know me, and yet you know nothing about me. You've come to all this conclusion from just a couple of conversations. I was not always a christian. But unlike you, I never let religion stop me from finding the True God of all Things. Seams to me, I'm speaking from your own words here, That you have made the same error as many do. You have created a God who fits your thoughts, and understandings, Instead of the God of the Bible, and His son Jesus.
poftc 2 months ago
there is a logical possibility that the being who created all this is , shall we say playing doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde..not pleasant , but still a logical possibility...did you ever entertain that in a cool computer-like level headed way...i doubt it because you blind yourself to such things as they scare you.I'm stronger...religion is for the weak, every form of it has a purpose in their goal.being who runs the show made us for his entertainment, like a cat playing with mice...=equally possible
vincent4500 2 months ago
@poftc sorry man but Bill Cooper stated that if it was possible to prove religion logically then it WOULDNT BE RELIGION ...what he said is where Im at, just the fact it adds up with biblical prophecy is NECESSARY but not SUFFICIENT to prove it is biblical...Cooper stated that logically either elites enacting this for some bizarre unknown reason or there is a God...he WOULDNT COMMIT HIMSELF..I know everything he said and believed..he was empirical, youre just desperate so blind yourself
vincent4500 2 months ago
sorry but you blind yourself to other possibilities...pure logic looks at each and every possibility...religion is a tool of manipulation, the final red pill is that they made it look like its possible to be saved and that christianity is what its about.deceit is deeper..i studied the bible trying to be a christian because I thought it added up.but the more i studied more i realised somehting is wrong...for a start 99.9% of christians wont be saved who are confident they will be, thats biblical!
vincent4500 2 months ago
@vincent4500 I also am logical. And as a logical person it still amazes me how someone can have all the evidence set in front of them, and yet they still find reason to deny, or argue. These are not claims that can't be backed up. These are facts. And as William Cooper said. Take no ones word for it. RESEARCH it for yourself. Who by the way was a Christian. This matter is between you and God, not me, or any man. Be Well. TIM
poftc 2 months ago
youchristians cant even decide on what the 'seal' is , Ive heard a convincing argument that the 'seal' is having faith and trust in jesus and repenting...there is scripture that backs this up also....typical of bible that you can argue almost any point and it will sound convincing..thats why i cant be a christian, i think too logically.
vincent4500 2 months ago
@poftc this is what you are ASSUMING is happening behind closed doors because you believe this is what is going to happen...Im not saying it wont happen but i dont like people (as Bill Cooper stated) making claims which they can't back up and verify ...it devalues their whole point.
vincent4500 2 months ago
@vincent4500 No one is enforcing it yet. They are lobbying for it. Speaking to the U.N. about it, and the globle Goverment, religion is pushing for it. Most don't relise that most states have laws still on the books about Sunday Worship. Laws that were put there long ago when they pushed for it.
poftc 2 months ago
@poftc hold on , i am NOT aware of Government enforcing any oppressive laws on us yet to make us worship on sunday- you are anticipating something that hasn't occurred yet..IF it does happen then what you say may be appropriate....i think it may happen, who knows..
vincent4500 2 months ago
@vincent4500 Hello. Yes. Saturday has been and will always be the 7th-day. And the powers that be are trying to pass and enforce Sunday observence laws now. Remember God said THE 7th-day, not A 7th-day. And that it is a 10 Commandments Law, not a Mosaic Law. And we are to Keep the 10 Commandments, not because this is what saves us, but because this pleases, Him and He knows what is best for us. God Bless, and Happy Sabbath. TIM
poftc 2 months ago