There is non-christian sources that report Jesus life.
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@igystrvigy I agree that a "man" named Jesus "likely" existed. It's too bad though that there's no compelling historical evidence for him. Compelling in the sense of it would have been great to have had something written by Jesus or a drawing of him. Oh well.
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@99minerkc The same can be said for your position, whatever it is. Despite the ASSERTIONS of some people here, like @SupremeChimp, Habermas does apply historical method and weighs the importance of primary and secondary details to conclude that Jesus existed. To deny that a man named Jesus existed is the most wishful of all thinking.
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@igystrvigy Wishful thinking won't make your story accurate
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@99minerkc He said WITHIN 100-150 years. That means some are possibly 30 years or later. It's in that span because the movement grew. It was a virtually inconsequential number in the first few years, but quickly spread.
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Once one understand that tens of thousands of people - in America no less - believe in 'aliens', of some kind, visiting the earth and abducting people, then the question becomes not whether or not there was an actual Jesus, but instead how people describe their lives in this world in the light of "general semantics".
What bothers me is not whether Jesus preformed these miracles but whether or not we truly understand how universal his experience of oneness with god really is. John 17:21
Boom.
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@niinja2 what are you talking about, the gospels?
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all of the antique history was written many years after people died
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People have a tendency, in history, to record pretty significant events that happen. The resurrection of dead people would be one of these things. Why have numerous historians operating around the era of Jesus' death remained mum about all these dead people walking around after Jesus died? Probably because it didn't happen.
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Do we have any extant sources concerning the earthquakes and the apparent rise of the dead following the death of Jesus as recorded by Matthew 27:51-53? Of course not.
Why is it that these sources outside of the bible that account for Jesus , do so 100-150 years AFTER the supposed life/death of jesus christ? Why WASN'T there any say withing 1-2 years after hid death? SO MUCH FABBRICATION WOULD HAVE APPEARED AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS OUT!!!
99minerkc 2 years ago 5
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There weren't any sources about his life closer than what we have because Jesus was a nobody. He was one of many crazy Jews who thought they were the messiah and ended up getting offed by the Romans. To the great historians of the day, such a nobody wouldn't even merit a footnote. He was just another nameless revolutionary the Romans took out.
It wasn't until his followers started causing trouble that historians paid any attention to Jesus.
imperator332 1 year ago 3