Chopin Nouvelle Etude No.2 Rosenthal Rec.1935

This is one of Rosenthal's most beautiful recorded performances,totally different from that of Koczalski's. Both pianists studied with Chopin's pupil,Karl Mikuli. Which is the more authentic? Probably both of them are equally authentic as it is said(from contemporary reports) that Chopin never played his compositions the same way twice.

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• Chopin
• Nouvelle
• Etude
• Rosenthal

[bomberator2]

un peu surnaturel, on se croirait sur un nuage; On atteint au merveilleux, à la poésie faite homme

[Beckmesser2]

@bomberator2 Merci pour votre commentaire.

[KK181180]

hard to describe this with words. when playing chopin, it almost seems as rosenthal can control his hands absolutely independendly, playing with synchronous and asynchronous alterations of not only loudness and speed but any characteristics of a tone that can be altered ..

[gerardbedecarter]

This is Chopin playing.

[sukangeong]

@gerardbedecarter

I remember one of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra musicians commenting that Frita Reiner would do things conducting in performance that he did not do when recording a piece, presumably because one can hear something once and be pleased, hear the same thing many times and feel that the performance is mannered, and be annoyed.

[saunsnaen]

I never realized what an exquisite piece this is until I heard this Rosenthal recording. He is incredible!

[Bluetooth6483]

Yes, never playing the same way twice is the authentic way of playing romantic music!

[gerardbedecarter]

@lgchinadragon LP stands for "long playing". LP records were black vinyl discs which went at 331/3 revolutions per minute. They superseded 78 rpm discs and in turn they were superseded by CDs.

[lgchinadragon]

@gerardbedecarter , what are LPs?

[gerardbedecarter]

@gerardbedecarter .... this variation from live performance to live performance was mentioned to me by the late Alan Moffat [who studied with Jean Langlais] as the authentic way of performing Franck's organ pieces in terms of rubato etc. [PS: The French pianist and teacher Marmontel stated that Franck used arpeggiata in the performance of his own organ works {and Franck had a very wide stretch!!!}!!!].

[gerardbedecarter]

@gerardbedecarter .... i imagine that this is what you were writing when you were truncated by the YouTube rules, in which event i totally agree with you .... and in any event i think the point is a very important one!

[gerardbedecarter]

@eliyaguy ..... the spread of LPs meant the decline and virtual disappearance of the nineteenth-century piano interpretative devices of melody-delaying, melody-anticipation and arpeggiata [and, to a limited extent and degree, also, tempo changes, accelerando and rubato] because it becomes hard to listen to the same device each time. The point is that use of these devices varied in quantity and quality and type and number from live performance to live performance.

[gerardbedecarter]

@stan724 .... and Liszt himself probably realised that this was his last performance ... his health was going down fast and he had the strenuous London tour to come. He wanted to end with this piece which sums up all Chopin's thought and feeling. He wanted this to be his tribute to Chopin. How do I know this? I infer this from all the surrounding circumstyances. Rosenthal heard Liszt play Chopin's pieces on many occasions and Liszt had himself heard Chopin play his own pieces.

[vivienmerchant]

This absolutely sublime. This pianist - at his best- comes very close to what is going on in Chopin. It has a kind of heart, spirit and above all a melancholy tempered by very good taste and wonderfully aware sense of singing. I do hope as many people can hear this as possible.