School board candidate takes on notion of 'separation of church and state'

The debate began with a questioned posed to Mount Vernon Board of Education candidate Jeff Cline about expressing Christian values in the classroom. Cline responded that although he does not advocate preaching in the classroom he does believe that there are times when a Christian should choose to honor God's law over man's law.

Cline gave the example of a time, as a high school baseball coach, that he prayed and discussed his Christian beliefs with a student who had approached him asking for help with some problems. "As a Christian," Cline told the audience, "if you have certain moral values and certain convictions, stand for them."

The debate was sponsored by the Knox County 912 Project and held on Oct. 27, 2011 at the Knox County Career Center, Adult Education Building (Ohio).

Related article: "MV school board candidates answer questions." http://www.accountabilityinthemedia.com/2011/10/mv-school-board-candidates-an...

For more information regarding the notion of 'separation of church and state,' see the article by David Barton "The Separation of Church and State." http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=123

Watch the full debate: "MVBOE candidates answer questions (Oct. 27, 2011)"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV9Pwtw9R7Q

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[jerico641]

1:16 - you can't help a kid without preaching at him, coach?? Btw, where did you get your counselling degree? What do you do? I'll tell you what you don't do; you don't preach.

[jfsfrnd]

@BkupAcct What? You want pluralism?

[BkupAcct]

Unable to ask even the simplest question without first acknowledging that "it's important for us to have Christian values." That's how brainwashed Americans have become. Too bad about the Jews, muslims, sikhs, hindus, atheists, et al.

[jfsfrnd]

You can see by Madisons statements that the first section of the first amendment, ''Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion'' does not mean starting a government mandated religious denomination like they had in England.

[jfsfrnd]

2 - The law appointing Chaplains establishes a religious worship for the national representatives, to be performed by Ministers of religion, elected by a majority of them; and these are to be paid out of the national taxes. Does not this involve the principle of a national establishment, applicable to a provision for a religious worship for the Constituent as well as of the representative Body, approved by the majority, and conducted by Ministers of religion paid by the entire nation?

[jfsfrnd]

1 - From Madison's Detached Memoranda.

Is the appointment of Chaplains to the two Houses of Congress consistent with the Constitution, and with the pure principle of religious freedom? In strictness the answer on both points must be in the negative. The Constitution of the U. S. forbids everything like an establishment of a national religion.

[jfsfrnd]

I wonder what you would do if your kid who was somehow troubled and his life in a mess went to condfide in his pagan teacher who could now introduce him to his pagan religion and belief system as a fix to his problems.