Professor Alan Ebringer on Diet and Ankylosing Spondylitis

Professor Ebringer discusses the role of diet in treating AS by directly reducing the germ that causes AS through dietary starch restriction ("substrate modulation"). Lecture courtesy www.kickas.org Las Vegas June 2003.

Ok, UNDERSTAND who Ebringer is: He was head of the MIddlesex AS Clinic for nearly 20 years and his sole focus was AS, so he worked exclusively with over 600 AS patients. And as a researcher has published over 100 peer-reviewed and published papers on AS. He has more than twice the AS experience of any other scientist. And he is a scientist training physicians; his work is reaching textbooks now and newer physicians will be more familiar with the role of diet in AS.

He makes statements that are based upon scientific certainty AND empirical experiences--not supposition and superstition. His hypothesis produces RESULTS. Some clown in a lab coat suggesting that diet is "placebo" or just disease variations is lying--UNDERSTAND who THEY are!

You can pay good money to be lied to...it is YOUR money and YOUR body and a personal choice, but just because this information is free You should not ass-u-me it has no value.

Sorry, but I only answer people who write to me and are willing to make the strongest effort to get well; pointing to a video with misleading information will do nothing but cause paralysis. I am not paralyzed and I know what works for me and HUNDREDS of other people with AS.

Please do not write to me unless You really want to learn how You can best try to get Yourself well! Nobody can do it for You and yes it requires extreme commitment and hard work.

DragonSlayer

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[ReWir3d]

In GENERAL, there have been MANY studies trying to de-bunk Ebringer's and his colleagues at Kings College and elsewhere work. Most of these lack an understanding of the disease mechanism details (like measuring Klebsiella levels in ALL, including INACTIVE patients).

Improper DOE, very clumsy techniques, unscientific data collection can all be cobbled together into a "scientific-looking" paper, but when properly and thoroughly analyzed they nearly all fall apart.

SUCCESS is enough support 4 me

[ReWir3d]

The NoStarchDiet is NOT LOW GLUTEN. A Low-gluten diet will not eliminate Klebsiella substrate, so such an assertion is invalid; simply going low-gluten SHOULD NOT reduce AS symptoms. DIET is KEY in AS: Prove it to Yourself by FASTING, long-term. I have fasted--water-only--for 20 days and had very lasting remission as a result. It takes at least four days, due to half-life of IgA. I have had AS since late 1971, and now too many surgeries! HEALTH!

[ReWir3d]

Now understand who is speaking: Ebringer has 20 years and over 600 patients experience and myriad research papers published.  He is a scientist while his detractors are usually physicians with less than a minor percentage of his experience.

[ReWir3d]

Hi, missshebella! The diet for AS requires exclusion of starches, especially unnatural ones (flour products), improperly cooked (fried), and soluble (potatoes and corn). It is not so much that we eat these once in a while--but our diets have come to rely upon daily starch--daily bread--and that is a major factor in producing AS in the first place. The intestinal tract can be healed so that, eventually, some starches can be eaten, but this requires strict diet, initially.

[1sysyphus]

Why is anyone trying a "low" gluten diet? Gluten should be a "no" gluten diet if you are going that way. It is all or nothing. A low Gluten diet is a waste of effort. And Gluten is NOT a starch, it is a protein. I am just in the first days of this low starch diet for my AS and I am feeling great. I can't say it is going to work, but I can say that I am feeling very good so far. It is worth trying.

[TehPicksy]

Dear Professor Ebringer,

I love you. THANK YOU. I feel better than I have in a long time.

[3948jeff]

@ReWir3d I want to add that just because a low starch diet did not work for me does not mean that it will not work for other people. I strongly suggest that people with AS try it & see if it works for them. I wanted to add that there are clinical studies out there that found no link between active AS & Klebsiella. Search for the article titled "Somatic Serogroups, Capsular Types, and Species of Fecal Klebsiella in Patients with Ankylosing Spondylitis" from Finland, an interesting counterpoint

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[3948jeff]

@ReWir3d Sorry, ReWir3d, I misspoke, I meant the Low starch diet that Dr. Edringer recommends on KickASdotORG "The London AS Diet", which reduces starchy foods & increases high protein foods, vegables & fruit. I have not read that fasting is part Dr. Edringer's diet. After 37 years of personnal research on myself, I found a diet low in saturated fat with a whole grain (wild rice, oats, oat bran), a vegatable (broccoli, spinach, carrots, salad) & a meat/fish protein is best for my AS & my bowels.

[3948jeff]

@ar1340 I've tried all sorts of diets including the low gluten diet and I moved to a very dry weather climit area, but none of that has helped me except for aspirin, Aleve, which I can only take very sparingly, and my special exercize routine. But you are right about NSAIDS ruining my stomach and causing GERD, so I must take them sparingly with food. I'm very leery of taking any of the immune suppressing drugs like Humira which are much too expensive for me anyway.

[3948jeff]

I wanted to add that my AS started in my neck, not in my lower back. My family doctor refered me to an Ortho doctor, who did not know what it was either. Then after doing sit-ups in gym class I started to get spasms in my lower back. I went back to the Ortho doctor who took X-rays which showed bone spurs. After that my ortho doctor suspected that it might be AS, so he tested me for the HLA-B27 antigen, which was positive and finally diagnose me with AS at 15 years old. I've had AS for 37 years.