ENGLISH SUBTITLES: KALIMA ERASED PAKISTANI TV PROGRAM (ISLAM AHMADIYYA)

Mullahs Justifying Acts of Blasphemy by Pakistani Authorities - A Clip from Express TV discussion program Point Blank With Lucman. On 10th of August 2009, Pakistani Punjab Police forcefully erased Kalima (لا اله الا الله محمد رسول اللہ) & sacred names of Allah & Muhammad (saw) from Ahmadiyya Mosque & homes belonging to Ahmadi-Muslims. Later on the 3rd of September 2009, a very courageous Pakistani host Mr. Mubashir Luqman in his program "Pont Blank with Lucman" of "Express News channel" brought this issue to light to the general public of Pakistan. Pakistani Mullahs belonging to three different sects were invited in the program to explain the "justification" of this henous crime. Listen to the rediculous arguments they present to justify this shameful act.

Is this the "brand" of Islam towards which Anti-Ahmadiyya invite us. Alhamdolillah (All praise to Allah) for showing us the light in Islam Ahmadiyyat.

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[irfan16250]

mubashir was extremely wrong if they are true Muslims then why they are called ahmadis its because they make shirk with Allah subhanahu watala prophet Muhammad (saw) is the last prophet .

[ThePersecution]

@irfan16250 We are Ahmadi Muslims to distinguish ourselves from other sects of Islam who also call themselves Muslims but their actions and interpretations of Islam totally differ from us. It is only the name of Jamaat. We are however the true followers of Islam with the grace of Allah. Also when did we do Shirk (associated partner with Allah)? Holy Prophet is the last law bearing prophet but to say that no prophet even within Islam in Holy Prophet's subservience is going against Islam.

[klajie]

Its little wonder that a country blighted by corruption and terrorism, would judge members of their own religious minorities and persecute. I wonder why they were issuing fatwas at cartoons and salman rushdie when they themselves dirty their own gods name! This is case and point of why Islam is getting a bad name here in the west.

[TheYungapostle]

You say u have faith in people(humanity) so explain these things. My faith in humanity would be some sure relief for all of the stated's troubles, if i put my faith in people(who will never come thru,and thus eliminates your faith in humanity statement). Let me be clear with my liberal statement: If the majority says no or yes to something even if its wrong thats a clear definition of a liberal. Name an exp. when your faith in humanity has assisted anyone. Jesus is all there is.

[attractivue]

@TheYungapostle FOA, liberal doesn't mean what you stated here. Aids in Africa, hunger etc, ARE YOU 100% SURE THESE PEOPLE EFFECTED HAVE NO FAITH? Majority of US inmates are actually religious. Atheists don't really end up in those places.

If there WAS a God, then why are muslim countries so screwed? I know your response to that, is that because they are not following God properly?

[TheYungapostle]

@attractivue We have a name for u in the states, a liberal. With no permanent stance on anything. The world knows individuals with faith in themselves and countless other non believers they r called atheists. You have faith in humanity, explain Africa...its hunger and aids epidemic, explain the USA incarceration rate, explain disparity with regards to income inequality, these are faithless non believing people who had faith put in them. Our faith has a different definition. Good luck to u.

[attractivue]

@TheYungapostle No, I am an Australian of Pakistani descent. You don't know of a Pakistan that doesn't faith? Well I don't know any human being without faith, I have faith too, but not in some supernatural magical being up in the sky! I have faith in myself and humanity etc. Well, Pakistan hasn't evolved enough to be debated about the non-existence of this imaginary friend called Allah. My hopes are high and I hope one day they will become an open society!

[TheYungapostle]

@attractivue You are a American of Pakistani descent, i dont know of a pakistani that doesnt know faith, or even better an immigrant.You dont have a disbelief in religion, you have a disbelief in christ, if your not residing in pakistan anymore then its because u cant tell your countrymen Allah does not exist...another words u werent a brave outspoken atheist in pakistan.

[attractivue]

@TheYungapostle I'll give you a simpler solution, why wait for 6-8 years (nothing will happen in that time anyway). Why doesn't your God come down and hold an interview on CNN or BBC and show couple of miracles. Everyone will start worshipping HIM THEN!

[TheYungapostle]

@attractivue I said he became human, he is not alive physically to be a "human".Dont worry, a world of thinkers and those who believe know that his kingdom will be here soon(next 6-8yrs). He can introduce himself too u personally. Ill bet u do believe in religion and u r a muslim...given your decent you are probably an ahmadiyaa.

[attractivue]

@TheYungapostle Well, it hurts me to see my country of birth, Pakistan is so backward and still believes in ideas that were invented by some crazy men in an Arab cave.

As I said, getting angry is a HUMAN trait, your God sounds like a human!

[TheYungapostle]

@attractivue The lord took a human form in the son Jesus(a biological creature) and showed love and forgiveness, he became "angry" at leading religious teachers such as the pharisee's. Your response tings of a science nature, how did you come onto this video did you accidentally look into something religious, u r just just to stir people up you believe in religion.

[attractivue]

@TheYungapostle How can I get God in my life when there is NO God! Why does your God command obedience in the first place? Why does it get angry? Last I checked only biological creatures get angry and feel possessive! Your God seems like has humanly traits!