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As to ARM
performance per watt = performance. Many things are already at a power wall. You can't very well put a 200 watt CPU on a console. I'm not talking about the death of x86, just a shrinking market.
I think the future of CPU's will be in instruction sets that can scale up in parallel. 8, 16, 32, 64 operation blocks with larger, not so latency dependent jobs done by specialty chips like a GPU or on a server.
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@JustineBieberxoxo A Cell like CPU is what I'm talking about. There is lots of support for CUDA and soon OpenACC. OpenACC is high level, using compiler directives. I think it's part of OpenMP. It doesn't have the programing difficulty of the Cell and does graphic native as they are graphics cores. Integrating at the instruction level would help.
Look at Cray's upgrade from Jaguars to Titans.
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@JustineBieberxoxo I actually use Total war games to save me money on heating in the winter lol.. sooo, yes they do use my system. I had empires on for over a month once.
Some games have problems with the hyper threading and can run better on an OC 9650. It's that most games max out one core, mostly issues with older games.
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@abram730 devices, and x86 is more for performance, the PPC can and does both already. And the powersaving could use some work, but if you put the design on 22nm and use deep sleep power states for the idle cores it might just idle belows Intels parts. I'm pretty sure it could. Design specs are also done by an open forum where x86 is a proprietary design, a bad thing when you look at history.
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@abram730 That was already kind of done with the CEll-cpu in the PS3. It's design is something I really admire, one single PPC with several vector cores that can do parallel workloads and generate graphics. Too bad developing for it was too difficult and they had to add a full vga card instead of just a rasterizer.
PPC scales from my router at a comfy 1,2Ghz(20 watt system draw) to the 4,7Ghz behemoths of IBM. The scaling is godly. Where ARM is more for the simpler powersaving
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@abram730 You'll see my 4 core SB sweat from time to time. Equally impressive is X3 when you have a lot of factories and populated systems. The simulated economy can make your rig cruynch numbers. Sure, COD might max at 25%, but that is a console port.
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@abram730 ARMv8 at 3Ghz and 2 watts? Those cores must be simplified or no way. Which would explain why they are comparable to 1,5Ghz of SB.
X-Gene is not the first, HP already has ARM servers for sale. Many simple cores, but they are not suited to all kinds of workloads.
"20% CPU loads are quite common", eeh, excuse me? What kind of godlike 10Ghz cpu do you have? Or do you stick to Fruit Ninja and Angry Birds?
Fire up a 2000 entity Supreme Commander game, or Shogun 2 maxed out.
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@JustineBieberxoxo I think the best possible performance IMO would come from an asymmetric chip.. The highest performance core you could get and then arrays of micro cores running in parallel with a core designed specifically to manage the micro core arrays and do some complex tasks they can't.
ARM simply has numbers and $ behind it right now. It also has a good perf per watt and Moor's law will soon make that hard to ignore.
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@JustineBieberxoxo 8 ARMv8 cores @ 3ghz is comparable to a 4 core sandy bridge cores @ 2.4ghz, if what I read was correct.. ARMv8 also uses just 2 watts per core at 3GHZ. X-Gene is looking to put 32 cores on a chip for servers.
Games don't really use much CPU power.. 20% CPU loads are quite common.
Project Denver is 8 64bit ARM cores and 256-512 CUDA cores(32 or 64 per core) as of last reports.
Do you know PPC watts per core?
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@abram730 ARM is aimed at powerconservative systems. You want high performance, like for games x86 is the way to go for the foreseeable future. I doubt adding a simple arm core to a videocard is going to make it run more than the simplest of things. Would be nice for a phone or tablet though.
An arch that I admire and think would be a better replacement for the hackjob called x86 would be PPC imho. I think they agree looking at certain new instructions, AVX in particular.
@2x4 How did you spend for this pc and where can i buy it?
ale13471096 6 months ago
@ale13471096 i bought all parts at newegg and put it together
2x4 6 months ago 6
Good sir, what program do you use to check the fps of games?
007finness 9 months ago 3
@007finness fraps, kind sir
2x4 9 months ago 9