Should We Teach the Controversy? HD version

Another HD version of a previous video.

Now, the creationist/ID people say we should teach the "controversy" about evolution vs. intelligent design and let the students decide for themselves. It sounds very reasonable, but is it, really?

Here's the cdk007 video mentioned: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWGJ3ydBQiE

Category:

Education

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• evolution
• creation
• intelligent
• design
• teach
• controversy
• expelled
• kitzmiller
• dover
• religion
• science

[icemindreallife]

OKOK, we all been through CTW, Critical THinking and Writing and they give us the tree root website if we want to complain. FINE! But this is the Survival Game. this is the elimination process! First, people do not trust religion anymore! But then, they still keep the church going isnt it? So, the moron does not trust the Bible, but says Science is everything. But the intelligent ones go to the church and get baptised, and goes back to work as a scientist and become rich. End of division.

[shanedk]

@icemindreallife "But the intelligent ones go to the church and get baptised, and goes back to work as a scientist and become rich."

Then how come scientists are far LESS likely to believe in God?

[bsabruzzo]

@shanedk @johnrainrules @rkyeun @MystryBox @2Jax I must ask you, unless you wish to merely say good-bye, please stop messaging. There is no reason any of you can't take your empty victory and be done with it.

I'm certain beating a person you feel is inferior makes you have a sense of accomplishment. Most people would have preferred and actual victory.

As I said, I learned a lot, have a number of new sources of material to read and digest (though many concepts are retreads).

[shanedk]

@bsabruzzo You're going to tell ME to stop commenting on MY OWN CHANNEL???

Man, I've seen desperate, but...

[bsabruzzo]

@shanedk @johnrainrules @rkyeun @MystryBox @2Jax I have certainally had my deficiencies (spelling, grammar, lack of knowledge of jargon) and most of you have yours (twisting the topic from a generic being as a possibility back into the myth of a christian god is a big one) and there is where it shows your closed minds and lack if actual exploration. I am glad most in the scientific community don't have these restrictions and allow for the impossible to become reality.

[shanedk]

@bsabruzzo None of that is what we have a problem with. It's your DELIBERATE DISHONESTY.

[johnrainrules]

You forgot about the 5th type. The crazy guy ranting about nonsense on the internet because he hasn't gotten his Haloperadol today.

[icemindreallife]

@kotoroshinoto Precisely! SO there are basically 4 types of humans here, like how the Astrology has 12 different kinds of human predictions for your future if you care. And 4 types. The person who agrees with GOD, the person who disagrees with GOD, the person who agrees with Science, and the person who disagrees with Science. FOUR? it is just two! Now that is evil! Good luck you win 1 million US dollar in Survivor Series.

[kotoroshinoto]

@vottoduder he is talking about "in science class", outside of that environment you SHOULD teach kids why religion is wrong and the many ways it is wrong, but the classroom isn't really the best place for it, as it takes time away from the actual science, and most students have a hard enough time dealing with that.

[vottoduder]

Should we teach controversy? Absolutely. I would still be a Christian and a Creationist if I had never studied the bible. The reason Christians are Christian is because they have no knowledge of what their religion teaches. Everyone should know what ID and Creationism are and how it comes to its conclusions.

[GumbaMasta]

@shanedk You think this is desperate? You havent seen my love life yet then.

[TheKainMan]

@bsabruzzo You forgot to add me in there. Speaking for myself now:

I give you credit for using the quotation marks on the word atheist. I can assure you no atheist finds common ground on science with a believer, because science doesn't work both ways. Those "atheists" were theists or incredibly stupid and had no knowledge of the actual scientific method.

Finally, nice how you choose to just give up and remain ignorant instead of reading science books and articles about REAL science.

[rkyeun]

@bsabruzzo

Yes, that perspective you have is certainly one way to be wrong.

[shanedk]

@bsabruzzo And I hope YOU don't lie on YOUR death bed wishing you'd been more honest when dealing with people who don't agree with you and who know more than you do.