Tribute to the late LDS President Hinckley

I noticed you conveniently discarded the rest of the prophesy, which goes on to say that the Civil War will lead directly to Armaggedon and a full end of all nations.

Ok, your not really going there are you?LOL

He doesn't give a time when Armegeddon is coming. He just says it is. It doesn't say "right after the war this is going to happen"

I applaude your efforts to find the truth, and to know whether or not Joseph was a Prophet, but let's get real here. Show me where he is wrong, or we should stop talking about it.

Either way, I just want you to know that I have nothing against you, infact, I can honestly say that I love you brother:)

And let's take all of that and check the definition of a false prophet, using Mormon standards, okay?



"False prophets-the curse and scourge of the world! How awful and awesome and evil it is when one pretends and professes to speak for God in leading men to salvation, but in fact, has a message that is false, a doctrine that is not true, and prophesy that will not come to pass." (The Mortal Messiah, Apostle Bruce McConkie, 2:168-69)

Actually, I am going there. Since you're trying to split up the revelation, let's look at it a little closer, shall we?

By your standards, we must still be somewhere between verses four and five, right? Verse four says that the slaves shall rise up against their masters, but since slavery was made illegal in 1865, that verse is passed. And if so, why didn't Smith bother to mention the Mexican American War? The First World War? The Second World War? Korea? Vietnam? Kosovo? The Gulf Wars? 9/11?

Well, thanks, you're not such a bad person either.

The foreknowledge of the potential civil war was well known and was even reported by a Mormon newspaper, Evening and Morning Star, Jan 1833, p 64: "Rebellion in South Carolina.

It's also worth noting that Smith's 'revelation' came exactly a month after South Carolina's tariff nullification, but wasn't printed until 1876, 11 years after the war and then wasn't made scripture until 1880, 15 years after the war.

History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 546:
I told Stephen Markham that if I and Hyrum were ever taken again we should be massacred, or I was not a prophet of God.

I mean, I just gave you two, and yet you say he never make one correct prophesy?

What does that make you? What do you think God thinks of people who lie about Prophets on youtube?

They had finally pissed off the person who wasn't willing to let them slide any more.

Hyrum and Joseph were killed just 20 days after the printing press was destroyed. Did you really think they would be forgiven? Their deaths were the end result of their own behavior and I see no divinity in any of it.

The Illinois Governor, Thomas Ford, sent Hyrum and Joseph a letter that told them that they would be hunted down if they didn't turn themselves in. They chose to go back, knowing they would be eventually taken into custody no matter where they went.

Come now, that's a self-fulfilling prophesy if I ever saw one. Your standards for considering something prophesy are very low.

By his own account, he had been persecuted for years by that point, and none of which had been intended to be fatal, but when Smith ordered the Nauvoo Expositor's printing press destroyed, on June 7, 1844, a very expensive piece of private property then and now, his opponent's intent because murderous.