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@SpecterWSA Indeed and a child isn't an adult. What's your point?
HumanRights4Everyone 1 month ago
Pro abortion, a seed is not a flower noobs
SpecterWSA 3 months ago
@CainMeadows
"And once I read "I'm pro abortion" I shall not even try to reason with you, and will calmly dismiss you as an obtuse moron."
I love how this sentence is basically an admission that you won't rationally discuss abortion simply because you have decided not to listen as soon as you find out someone is trying to argue against you. I've seen this before. Creationists spring to mind. Are pro-lifers the new creationists perhaps? Have fun persisting in that ignorance.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago
@CainMeadows
" You must be one terrible scientist (not too mention unprofessional) to freak out on a youtube video like this."
Pointing out that you should distinguish between sentient life and life or human life is freaking out?
"And once I read "I'm pro abortion" I shall not even try to reason with you, and will calmly dismiss you as an obtuse moron."
I used pro-abortion because that's the obnoxious term you decided to use. I call it pro-choice.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH You must be one terrible scientist (not too mention unprofessional) to freak out on a youtube video like this. And once I read "I'm pro abortion" I shall not even try to reason with you, and will calmly dismiss you as an obtuse moron.
CainMeadows 4 months ago
@CainMeadows
"Nice try; next time rely on an education and not pro-abortion standards."
This is the dumbest sentence I have read in a while. Apart from the fact that I am not only educate in life sciences but also employed in them, and have even worked with aborted fetal material, you make point out that I have pro-abortion standards as if that's a fallacy. They are called arguments mate, i'm pro abortion, so obviously my arguments and "standards" will be likewise. Thanks Captain Obvious.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago
@CainMeadows
Notice that is over halfway the pregnancy. 75-89% of abortions take place in the first semester. Also, I didn't argue that you shouldn't abort life because it's sentient or not, I argued that you should distinguish between human life (which is a vague term to define anything starting from a single cell onward) and sentient life.
Cells experiencing trauma doesn't mean you experience trauma. If you as a human don't have a CNS you don't experience stimuli.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago
@CainMeadows
Yes, the third trimester. Notice that is over halfway during the pregnancy.
"Nice try; next time rely on an education and not pro-abortion standards"
1) Education? I rely on more than that, I rely on professional experience. I am actually a biomedical scientist and I have even worked with aborted fetal material in trials.
2) I'm arguing pro-abortion. You realize how stupid it is to point that out to me as if it some sort of crime? i'm pro-abortion so my arguments will be too...
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH The neocortex is developed in the third trimester, making a fetus able to feel physical pain and thus creating sentience. Beyond that, fetal nerve cells (which form between two weeks and a month after conception) are able sense and interpret trauma which some (although I don't) interpret as pain. Nice try; next time rely on an education and not pro-abortion standards.
CainMeadows 4 months ago
@CainMeadows
You are talking about a non-sentient pile of cells.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago