When Elites Fail, Part One

Noam Chomsky, Keynote Presentation at October 2009 Northwest Econvergence held in Portland Oregon.

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[alhazmif]

good speech..

[toseeornot2see]

@repatternthis Great, but I am still a little dubious as to whether you understand what "externalities" are.

[IllicitGreen]

@repatternthis need a better hobby, stop presiding over your own ignoble sense of righteousness. And with regard to Noam chomksy, hes a MIT professor, wtf r u, i definitely take his side over yours even if you proclaim that hes wrong in this specific statement, fukn corporate apologist fa****

[IllicitGreen]

@repatternthis the only thing i need to know to comment in the instance is that you derive self satisfaction by pointing out the fallacies of other peoples arguments, which is clear by your comment history, and this prompts me to describe your own failings. i cant speak to them all but one alone should suffice: why do you spend so much time on youtube engaging in these pointless debates? who cares if your right? the only thing it suggests, because it dosent prove anything to anyone, is that you

[toseeornot2see]

Frankly speaking, you can choose to indulge in more idiocy or come to terms with facts. I mean, this whole thing is becoming really stupid and I do not wish to take part in such idiocy any longer.

You can choose to, if you wish. You do seem to have a penchant for these sort of things and I wouldn't be surprised if you wish to further indulge in this stupidity.

[toseeornot2see]

@repatternthis The point was not whether Bauman is right or not. The point was that I gave you a proper reference, instead of "pulling things out of thin air".

You seem to concur that corporations behave unethically and live on taxpayer dollars. Yet you seem to condemn factory workers for "theft", from someone that you have accepted as committing an even bigger pilferage.

[IllicitGreen]

pointless online debates satisfying personal conceptions of superiority. Unfortunately the fervent argumentation serves only to appease ones own false perception of egomania, and will remain fundamentally incapable of convincing the contending individual that one is right as opposed to the other. Perhaps some random onlookers to the interaction will be influenced one way or the other but those involved will infact become more adamant in support of their original viewpoints. awasteoftimeforall

[toseeornot2see]

@repatternthis I wish to pursue the subject you mentioned, that is why I asked you to elaborate.

Just to give you an example, I could just have easily said something like "social forms and institutions have no longer enough time to solidify and cannot serve as frames of reference for human actions", without actually making the effort to explain what I meant or telling you that I just lifted a passage from one of Zymunt Bauman's works.

[toseeornot2see]

@repatternthis Also, like I have said before, it is not because that all businessmen and CEOs are genuinely evil. it's because they work for institutions that have no moral obligations that they are able to do things that they do.

Also, I can only elaborate what I say to the extent that the character limit allows me, on youtube.

[toseeornot2see]

@repatternthis It's great that you are such an independent person and I commend you for that.

It's interesting that you do not consider some of the highest paid men on earth as part of the elite class.

In terms of relevance to the issue, you haven't done much. Also, just to address your other contention, I have worked for corporations and businesses- something that I don't plan to do for life. I know how authoritative they can be and how callous the entire system is.