Panerai PAM111 Fake Analysis Review

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[RebelKnightCSA]

So...you wanna rock the look, but cannot afford the price? That, my friend, is why God gave us homages - same 'look and feel' but without the big name markings. I am currently typing this whilst wearing a Rolex GMT Master II homage that is actually made in China - it is NOT a fake, as there are no Rolex markings. The same goes for Panerai, Breitling, or any other luxobrand. Granted, you wont have the name, but you will still look rich.

[breitlingsource]

@RebelKnightCSA Homages are acceptable in my mind - better than this fake crap.

[leavantgarage]

@breitlingsource Why are homages acceptable and replicas aren't? Homages steal everything except for the name. They steal the design to make money off it, but you don't care because at least the guy who spent a more sane $300 on the watch doesn't get to show off and say he has a Panerai, but you do! Seems like a bad reason to buy a watch.

[breitlingsource]

@leavantgarage That's just my personal opinion on the issue. Many feel homages are unacceptable too. The thing is the Homage isn't doing anything illegal usually such as stealing copyrights. Its not a matter of "showing off". I don't give a damn about showing off. I buy my watches for myself only and I share pics and videos with those that are interested in it.

Real Panerais have quality and pride in craftsmanship and many have in-house movements. Something that matters to me.

[Nayr747]

Can anyone who "does not condone buying replicas" actually give a good reason to justify it? While there may be some good reasons, the reason always seems to be that it hurts the (luxury) watch industry. How exactly? No one that buys a replica for $100-$800 is going to be able to buy anything from one of these watch makers. They have taken ZERO dollars from them.

[breitlingsource]

@kraskata2012 I believe that is what the title says.

[RebelKnightCSA]

@leavantgarage Supply and demand, friend - gotta love capitalism. :) And I agree about the price thing, which is why my "Rolex" is a homage from China.

[leavantgarage]

@RebelKnightCSA Yes, but you're not convincing me they're worth what they cost. I don't think 'value' is determined by the seller, nor does value have anything to do with the fact that they can find some crazy person to buy it. Rather, what is it objectively worth? Not thousands of dollars.

[RebelKnightCSA]

@leavantgarage Okay, now those homage makers who copy the Panerai crown guard are out of line. I will give you that. That said, the mark of quality here is the brand name and assorted marks (like the Rolex crown or Louis Vuitton monogram). When you see those, you know you have good product. THAT is what makes these luxobrands so worth it - the mark of a good, quality name that has a long-established reputation for quality craftsmanship.

[leavantgarage]

@RebelKnightCSA Fair enough, but you sort of ruin your own argument in the end: homages *do* copy the Panerai crown guard. If you look into them, you'll find that homages are essentially replicas that haven't had the word "Panerai" printed on them or engraved. I know reps claim to be the real thing, and there's something wrong with that, but mostly I feel rich snobs only care because reps claim to be the thing that they bought as a status symbol and don't want less fortunate people in the club.

[leavantgarage]

@RebelKnightCSA Lots of watch brands have excellent reputations for quality, and they don't charge incredibly ludicrous prices (Seiko, Orient, etc). However, if a company can ask for $20,000 for a watch and get it, maybe that's a "good for them" situation, and I should be criticizing the insane person who bought it instead. But replicas 99% of the time are sold to buyers who know full well they're not getting the same level of quality [control] as a genuine watch, but they paid thousands less.

[leavantgarage]

@RebelKnightCSA Lots of watch brands have excellent reputations for quality, and they don't charge incredibly ludicrous prices (Seiko, Orient, etc). However, if a company can ask for $20,000 for a watch and get it, maybe that's a "good for them" situation, and I should be criticizing the insane person who bought it instead. But replicas 99% of the time are sold to buyers who know full well they're not getting the same level of quality [control] as a genuine watch, but they paid thousands less.

[RebelKnightCSA]

@leavantgarage Continued: Your point about 'rip[ping] off someones idea' really doesn't hold up. These watches like the Panerai Marina Militare and Rolex Submariner are pretty generic in design. Something that is that generic cant be intellectual property - there are only so many ways to make a watch, right? If the luxobrands were to make something unique (like the Panerai crown guard) then that uniqueness should be respected. But generic designs are fair game, IMO.

[RebelKnightCSA]

@leavantgarage A valid point! Now, what makes a Panerai, Rolex, or whatever so special? That would be the quality put into the piece, right? Those names mean quality. No quality marks means there is no guarantee as to quality. The 'look and feel' is there, BUT! there is no reputation for quality behind it. No Rolex crown or whatever means the watch could be junk for all you know. That is what brings in the money for the big names - a hard earned reputation for doing it right every time.

[leavantgarage]

@RebelKnightCSA You're describing a different kind of thing. Paying tribute to H.P. Lovecraft in style is one thing. Making a watch look exactly like a Panerai and just not calling itself a Panerai is another IMO. However, I might advocate homages and fakes on the basis that they both arguably cause people to question the asinine prices that luxury watch manufacturers charge. Also, by your logic, it is impossible to rip off someone's idea unless you claim to be them?