@realisticfacts As I said earlier, this is absolute rubbish. Girls are getting financial assistance from their marriage till their death. Get real buddy! The boys are burdened with taking care of the family since their youth. The preference is still to girls.
@realisticfacts Also, if you read Surath Al Nisa, Ayahs 4 and 5, it says: "And give the women [upon marriage] their [bridal] gifts graciously. But if they give up willingly to you anything of it, then take it in satisfaction and ease." Here the talk is about Mahr and not dowry. Mahr is the right of the girl. In Kerala, they demand dowry from the girl and with that money they give her Mahr - how stupid is that? Mahr is an obligatory thing, it should be given from the boy's money. Dowry is haram!
@realisticfacts Incorrect again. The families I know argue that girls are sent across to other families, but the boys stay with them. So they need to take care of girls more. On account of multiple customs such as adukkala kaanal, house warming, vayaru kaanal, delivery girls are given jewellery, food items, utensils and what not. The daughters are given dowry + their due property. Daughter in laws are squeezed for money for their sister in laws. That is the truth!
@realisticfacts It is absolutely ridiculous to say that poorer people are ready to marry without dowry. I do not know of anyone who is ready to marry a girl without dowry. I hail from a middle class family and got married to a guy poorer than me. His family were debating about the dowry and asserting that dowry is the right of the boy's family. As a parent one expects his daughter to live a better life than she has. Whatever the case, Dowry system is incorrect - it should be Mahr.
It has become a fashion for many people to talk against dowry system practiced in our society. Dowry should be seen as a part of financial distribution among family members in our society. As of my understanding, Islam had given an equal or even more financial security to woman.
Islam had put the financial requirements of women on father, and after the marriage on father and husband. As per Islam, Expenses of sick women has to be taken care by father/brother/society and not by husband. But in our society it is the husband who is taking care of women during medical exigencies.
Even though we talks on equality, we are a male dominated society, which is a natural one. It can be very well observed that, in almost all families, male children get more financial assistance from parents than female. In our society we can see people financially helping grandchildren of their son and not that of daughters. In most of the cases, during property sharing women are not getting their dues as per 1:2 ratio specified by Islam.
So in practice, marriage is the only occasion during which women can get some financial assistance from their parents, even though the terms are dictated by future in-laws. So people will give this (with or without happy) as gold, money, car etc. as per a negotiated pact before fixing the marriage. After the marriage this money is used for enhancing the living comfort of the couple.
Even with the current dowry system, one can see that, in almost all cases, women are not getting their property share as fixed by Islam. When these facts are clearly in black and white, why kerala mujahids are talking the dowry as haram. Under the current social circumstances, only those who hate girl children and want to keep the money for their sons can only talk against dowry
All parents want their daughters to be married to relatively elite family. In general parents (including those who talks against dowry) are not ready to send their daughters to relatively poorer, even though poorer are ready to marry them without dowry. So dowry is a problem to parents who are looking for grooms, who can ask more money than they can afford. So it is a problem partially created by oneself.
@realisticfacts As I said earlier, this is absolute rubbish. Girls are getting financial assistance from their marriage till their death. Get real buddy! The boys are burdened with taking care of the family since their youth. The preference is still to girls.
amianeesh 2 months ago
@realisticfacts Also, if you read Surath Al Nisa, Ayahs 4 and 5, it says: "And give the women [upon marriage] their [bridal] gifts graciously. But if they give up willingly to you anything of it, then take it in satisfaction and ease." Here the talk is about Mahr and not dowry. Mahr is the right of the girl. In Kerala, they demand dowry from the girl and with that money they give her Mahr - how stupid is that? Mahr is an obligatory thing, it should be given from the boy's money. Dowry is haram!
amianeesh 2 months ago
@realisticfacts Incorrect again. The families I know argue that girls are sent across to other families, but the boys stay with them. So they need to take care of girls more. On account of multiple customs such as adukkala kaanal, house warming, vayaru kaanal, delivery girls are given jewellery, food items, utensils and what not. The daughters are given dowry + their due property. Daughter in laws are squeezed for money for their sister in laws. That is the truth!
amianeesh 2 months ago
@realisticfacts It is absolutely ridiculous to say that poorer people are ready to marry without dowry. I do not know of anyone who is ready to marry a girl without dowry. I hail from a middle class family and got married to a guy poorer than me. His family were debating about the dowry and asserting that dowry is the right of the boy's family. As a parent one expects his daughter to live a better life than she has. Whatever the case, Dowry system is incorrect - it should be Mahr.
amianeesh 2 months ago
It has become a fashion for many people to talk against dowry system practiced in our society. Dowry should be seen as a part of financial distribution among family members in our society. As of my understanding, Islam had given an equal or even more financial security to woman.
realisticfacts 1 year ago
Islam had put the financial requirements of women on father, and after the marriage on father and husband. As per Islam, Expenses of sick women has to be taken care by father/brother/society and not by husband. But in our society it is the husband who is taking care of women during medical exigencies.
realisticfacts 1 year ago
Even though we talks on equality, we are a male dominated society, which is a natural one. It can be very well observed that, in almost all families, male children get more financial assistance from parents than female. In our society we can see people financially helping grandchildren of their son and not that of daughters. In most of the cases, during property sharing women are not getting their dues as per 1:2 ratio specified by Islam.
realisticfacts 1 year ago
So in practice, marriage is the only occasion during which women can get some financial assistance from their parents, even though the terms are dictated by future in-laws. So people will give this (with or without happy) as gold, money, car etc. as per a negotiated pact before fixing the marriage. After the marriage this money is used for enhancing the living comfort of the couple.
realisticfacts 1 year ago
Even with the current dowry system, one can see that, in almost all cases, women are not getting their property share as fixed by Islam. When these facts are clearly in black and white, why kerala mujahids are talking the dowry as haram. Under the current social circumstances, only those who hate girl children and want to keep the money for their sons can only talk against dowry
realisticfacts 1 year ago
All parents want their daughters to be married to relatively elite family. In general parents (including those who talks against dowry) are not ready to send their daughters to relatively poorer, even though poorer are ready to marry them without dowry. So dowry is a problem to parents who are looking for grooms, who can ask more money than they can afford. So it is a problem partially created by oneself.
realisticfacts 1 year ago