Radical Revolution - J. Krishnamurti (From Zeitgeist Addendum)

We will see how very important it is to bring about, in the human mind, the radical revolution. The crisis, is a crisis of consciousness. A crisis that cannot anymore, accept the old norms, the old patterns, the ancient traditions. And, considering what the world is now, with all the misery, conflict, destructive brutality, aggression, and so on... Man is still as he was. Is still brutal, violent, aggressive, acquisitive, competitive. And, he's built a society along these lines.

Jiddu Krishnamurti.

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[Sh0nin]

People are only as civilised as they are allowed to be. Poverty makes brutality a requisite for survival, though Krishnamurti is wise, he knows little of the pain of hunger.

[nbap]

Poverty is a concept created by men and cannot be an excuse for brutality. Brutality is in the men essence and is not triggered by a social condition.

[gtatix]

"We were saying..how very important it is to bring about - in the human mind - a radical revolution.

The crisis, is a crisis in contrasts. A crisis that cannot - anymore - accept the old norms, the old patterns, the..ancient traditions.

And - considering what the world is now, with all the misery, conflict, destructive brutality, aggression, and so on...Man is still as he was...

Is still brutal, violent, aggressive, acquisitive, competitive.....

And...he's built a society along these lines."

[agnostoatomo]

Isn't it an irony that someone like Krishnamurti, who stood against all forms of Movements and Beliefsystems has been (ab-)used by the Zeitgeistmovement ?

Don't you people realise that all forms (including the glorious Zeitgeist delusion)of manmade cosmologies are in the End producing suffering and discontentment?

The road to hell is paved with good intentions!

[agnostoatomo]

@nbap Your view on Brutality is not just contradicted by most of recent Behaviourists, Neuroscientists and latest Economists, but also just a thought and another concept, that helps certain people to excuse their conditioned behaviour, driven by greed.I don't say you are one of them, no, but obviously you seem to have given in to this Propaganda about "the Nature of mankind".

[agnostoatomo]

@nbap Sounds nice...go tell it to a starving child and her mother!

[triniweezy]

@zubayar so "nbap" is basically saying that poverty is not triggered by social condition and i think the current social condition is adding to the brutality and is the reason for poverty? so there is a trigger from the outside that has kept us this way for so many years.

[zubayar]

@triniweezy (You) May need to open your mind. Take out all prejudice and you'll be free to accept the truth.

[zubayar]

@gtatix WORD !

[triniweezy]

@nbap  i disagree

[Sh0nin]

@DarKAdyuS “People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do.” Isaac Asimov

No doubt we could argue these opposing points ad infinitum, simply because we disagree at a much more fundamental level. You see good as something ethereal, to be strived for beyond base instinct. I don't. My views are much more Nietszchean.

[DarKAdyuS]

@Sh0nin "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Isaac Asimov