@IEKUKATAKA I don't subscribe to the JKA either, so calm yourself down plz! This ridiculous bunkai was made up by Nakayama and his ilk in an effort to lay nationalistic claim to Shotokan as a Japanese style. The result is bunkai that are comically tragic in their interpretation! LOL!
@osensei2987 #3 I believe any objective person that really will put aside their ego, money considerations or other blinding effects will come to the same conclusion. Martial arts require comprehensive training regarding the nature of human conflict. Okinawan karate employs that very concept in general. It is not perfect and was never intended to be. It is an art form used by common people for common, period needs. It was never a sport and tournaments were never in the equation as in the JKA.
@osensei2987 #2 Reading and studying history and Okinawan karate will reveal the moral truth. After doing those things and after having been a life member of the JKA in Japan, where I began, and after having being certified to teach by them, I had to make a decision about my own integrity and my karate furure. I could no longer teach Shotokan as karate because it falls short of being karate in many ways. So, I stopped and continued to learn karate the only true way, as an Okinawan martial art.
@osensei2987 #1 The JKA does not even practice karate and your asserting they do shows your ignorance regarding the depth of your knowledge. The JKA practices a sport and has limited their technique syllabus to those techniques that can be used in tournaments. They have eliminated many original techniques, the real study of kusho, a true martial focus all because Nakayama wanted tournaments that are amazingly like kendo tournaments. Kendo plays with sticks, the JKA plays at pseudo-karate.
@osensei2987 You can pay homage to anyone you like, that is your choice. I do not believe I can learn of karate by learning of Gong Fu. I learn of karate by being involved in the karate of the source, Okinawa. It appears to me that you, and many others, want to assign the development of karate solely to the Chinese as if the Okinawans had no abilities to do so at all. Nonsense!! Karate is of Okinawa, Okinawa is karate. I see influence from China and that is all, Okinawan teachers say the same.
@WarriorBoy Karate is a formalized system. Especially when Nakayama was in charge! Nakayama was from a family of Ken-Jutsu instructors so his thinking was "VERY FORMALIZED". In a mind that possessed a swordsmanship mentality it would be distasteful to practice against an uki that was simulating a wild unorthodox attack! LOL! But nobody says u have to do like Nakayaka did! Everyone has their contribution to make to the art in spite of criticism from traditionalist fat-heads!
@IEKUKATAKA LOL! I cannot believe that anyone who has learned the great kata of the Shotokan style will not then pay immediate homage to the great masters of China. It is so evident that Chinese Gung Fu is the incubator of Karate. Everytime I do my kata I pay homage to the great Monks and their tradition that goes all the way back to Shaolin! I've learned more about Karate by investigating Shoalin temple boxing, Chi'na, Tai Chi, etc than I ever learned from Nakayama and his senseis! LOL!
@WarriorBoy Enoeda did not kill anyone in the US, that is BS. Enoeda became enamored with himself and stopped learning. He was violent and had a forceful personality but in terms of true karate he was ignorant. Shotokan people will tell you otherwise but the study of what karate really is tells another story. The JKA practices a sport and karate is not a sport.
I know its hard to see how kata could be useful. I used to think the same thing, but after so many years, the kata moves come out without even thinking. That is the purpose of kata. When you have the mouthpeice and the gloves on, and someone is attacking you, in free sparring techniques do not come out as clean and crisp as in kata. In fact, most of the time, they're pretty sloppy. We just practice them with precision, so they come out automatic. I hope that sets your mind at ease.
@IEKUKATAKA I don't subscribe to the JKA either, so calm yourself down plz! This ridiculous bunkai was made up by Nakayama and his ilk in an effort to lay nationalistic claim to Shotokan as a Japanese style. The result is bunkai that are comically tragic in their interpretation! LOL!
osensei2987 1 year ago
@osensei2987 #3 I believe any objective person that really will put aside their ego, money considerations or other blinding effects will come to the same conclusion. Martial arts require comprehensive training regarding the nature of human conflict. Okinawan karate employs that very concept in general. It is not perfect and was never intended to be. It is an art form used by common people for common, period needs. It was never a sport and tournaments were never in the equation as in the JKA.
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
@osensei2987 #2 Reading and studying history and Okinawan karate will reveal the moral truth. After doing those things and after having been a life member of the JKA in Japan, where I began, and after having being certified to teach by them, I had to make a decision about my own integrity and my karate furure. I could no longer teach Shotokan as karate because it falls short of being karate in many ways. So, I stopped and continued to learn karate the only true way, as an Okinawan martial art.
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
@osensei2987 #1 The JKA does not even practice karate and your asserting they do shows your ignorance regarding the depth of your knowledge. The JKA practices a sport and has limited their technique syllabus to those techniques that can be used in tournaments. They have eliminated many original techniques, the real study of kusho, a true martial focus all because Nakayama wanted tournaments that are amazingly like kendo tournaments. Kendo plays with sticks, the JKA plays at pseudo-karate.
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
@osensei2987 You can pay homage to anyone you like, that is your choice. I do not believe I can learn of karate by learning of Gong Fu. I learn of karate by being involved in the karate of the source, Okinawa. It appears to me that you, and many others, want to assign the development of karate solely to the Chinese as if the Okinawans had no abilities to do so at all. Nonsense!! Karate is of Okinawa, Okinawa is karate. I see influence from China and that is all, Okinawan teachers say the same.
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
@WarriorBoy Karate is a formalized system. Especially when Nakayama was in charge! Nakayama was from a family of Ken-Jutsu instructors so his thinking was "VERY FORMALIZED". In a mind that possessed a swordsmanship mentality it would be distasteful to practice against an uki that was simulating a wild unorthodox attack! LOL! But nobody says u have to do like Nakayaka did! Everyone has their contribution to make to the art in spite of criticism from traditionalist fat-heads!
osensei2987 1 year ago
@IEKUKATAKA LOL! I cannot believe that anyone who has learned the great kata of the Shotokan style will not then pay immediate homage to the great masters of China. It is so evident that Chinese Gung Fu is the incubator of Karate. Everytime I do my kata I pay homage to the great Monks and their tradition that goes all the way back to Shaolin! I've learned more about Karate by investigating Shoalin temple boxing, Chi'na, Tai Chi, etc than I ever learned from Nakayama and his senseis! LOL!
osensei2987 1 year ago
@WarriorBoy Enoeda did not kill anyone in the US, that is BS. Enoeda became enamored with himself and stopped learning. He was violent and had a forceful personality but in terms of true karate he was ignorant. Shotokan people will tell you otherwise but the study of what karate really is tells another story. The JKA practices a sport and karate is not a sport.
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
One rule in the Nijukun states: Practicing kata is one thing, engaging in a real fight is another.
sychkid 1 year ago
I know its hard to see how kata could be useful. I used to think the same thing, but after so many years, the kata moves come out without even thinking. That is the purpose of kata. When you have the mouthpeice and the gloves on, and someone is attacking you, in free sparring techniques do not come out as clean and crisp as in kata. In fact, most of the time, they're pretty sloppy. We just practice them with precision, so they come out automatic. I hope that sets your mind at ease.
njtr 2 years ago