Is it wrong to disagree with John Calvin?

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[Kainos1987]

And the reason God shows mercy to some and not others is to show his justice. I think Romans chapter 9 is pretty clear on that. When God says hes not a respector of person, it means nations, peoples, tribes, and tounges. God does'nt just save one race of people, he saves all, Revelation 5:9 says this.

[rotary57]

What would you call a judge that randomly sent some people to jail and released others, regardless of what they had done? Would "justice" be the right word here?

[Kainos1987]

Calvinism doesnt say man doesnt have a will or that he cant make choices. Calvinism teaches that man prior to being born again are slaves to sin. Just read Genesis 4:7 and Proverbs 1:29. Calvinism does deny free will, which means that you can only choose according to you're nature.

[rotary57]

Choice is defined as "an act of selecting or making a decision when faced with two or more possibilities" - if you can only choose one thing, it's not a choice.

[Kainos1987]

Notice the choice Joshua gave them Rotary, where did Joshua say you can choose the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. or the God of Israel, or Yahweh? Answer me why Joshua never gave them that choice. Notice the choices Joshua gave them.

[rotary57]

He does, Kainos - Joshua 24:14-16.... The choice is made in vs 16, and confirmed in vs 22.

22And Joshua said unto the people, Ye are witnesses against yourselves that ye have chosen you the LORD, to serve him. And they said, We are witnesses.

[AgApE010]

@crustomatic16

Let me ask you a question: Did Calvin see to it that those who violate Geneva's laws receive their due punishment, or did he brandish a butcher's knife, as it were, and prowl the streets slaying those whom he disliked?

Second question, were the key figures in the OT evil for stoning lawbreakers and heretics?

[crustomatic16]

Calvin is a bum...1500 years of church and Christ movement prior to this clown...

Lets ask Calvin's followers about his killings...was this imitating Christ?

[RefutingSkellyism]

@clearedto The Church is a collection of individuals.Eph.5 speaks not about election. Eph 4:16,Clearly describes the Body of Christ, as a fitly joined & compacted by that which EVERY JOINT supplies, according to....the measure of EVERY PART! You see, every PART contributes to the growth of the whole.God dispenses faith & Gifts INDIVIDUALLY Rom12:3,&1Cor12:11(respt).God Elects individuals as Parts of His Body. Eph1 shows distinctions between Apostles & the Ephesians v12-15, yet both are Elect.

[clearedtoengage]

@RefutingSkellyism No, sorry. You can be in the church and out of the church. The CHURCH is elected, not the individual members therein. Eph. 5

[RefutingSkellyism]

@clearedtoengage The Election of the Church is a collection of INDIVIDUALS! So, your point is meaningless. Why even bother making that point? What difference does it make to Election, and Predestination. BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH, if it's the Church in it's entirety, or the individuals that make up the Church. The argument is utterly spurious.

[clearedtoengage]

@RefutingSkellyism Eph. 1 is not individual election but group election of the church to salvation.

[TheAwakened888]

VERY WELL SAID! :)

[RefutingSkellyism]

'Respecter of persons'is irrelevant to Election as a it deals with the appearances of one's face or effort. Election is 'unconditional' which means it is NOT based upon appearances or effort.So,you're argument does not apply at all.Yet,the Scriptures,you merely 'say' you heed,contradicts your specious notions.You're problem is not with John Calvin,it's with the Bible you say you follow,but you don't! Ephesians 1:4-11.You have not taken the position of 'The Bible Says So'.You deceive yourself.

[AaronM144000]

Sorry bro I accidently rated one star for this video. But this is 5 star material.

[dickiebow2003]

Carnal knowledge is a major reason for the denial of Biblical truth - clearly take Eph 2:1 as an example - B4 God makes us alive in v.5 there is no denying that we are spiritually dead in v.1 - when was the last time U saw a dead man make an assist - did Lazarus assist Christ in rising from physical death? Obviously not! So use your carnal knowledge and deny the truth because U have yet to understand that His ways are not our ways - the same for his thoughts and yours - as for me I'll take His.