Animal Rights Activists take a 'self' guided tour of a North Island Pig Farm to see for themselves how pigs are kept and what they are forced to endure.
@bussmigun83 1. There is an unequal distribution of produce. If you can feed 10 people with a certain amount of grain, or 1 person with meat for which the same amount of grain was used, you can speak of a bad conversion rate. Equals waste.
2. So because practically all forms of cultivation results is the death of certain organisms, we can discard all ethical concerns? Seems like a dangerous fallacy.
3. Animals are enslaved BECAUSE people eat (wear, use...) them. Not vice versa!
@sensocentrist Firstly, I would like to say that the resources you refer to are not wasted, because they werecultivated and produced for the purposes they serve. Secondly, you are the ones defending the lives of organisms, I'm just proving to you that your stance is hypocritical. Thirdly, I used the idea of the exploitation of the dead organisms to show how the majority of humans consume meat. The majority of meat eaters get animals that are already killed, all they do is prepare and/or consume.
@bussmigun83 - There are animal sanctuaries, where animals are taken care of, not exploited. I've seen many, including rescued pigs who live there happily.
- No amount of financial income should supersede morality and ethics. We abolished human slavery in our western world, although this was a flourishing economical industry.
- You use far more produce when you consume animal derived products. Just research the food conversion ratio. Vegans exploit earth less.
@bussmigun83 Do you understand the ratio of food conversion? It can take up to 16 pounds of grain to "produce" 1 pound of meat. Thus not only a waste of resources, but a higher mortality rate of small organism as well. You kill less small organisms if you're a vegan.
Plants use dead organisms, they don't kill them. What's your point? Plants and small organisms have always had some sort of symbiosis. Hardly the term you'd want to use in the case of human anthropocentrism.
Do you consider how many small organisms are destroyed when land is cleared for farming? Do you consider that the small organisms which destroy the vegetation you eat are killed for being nuisances? Do you know that they are more beneficial to more eco-systems than are you? Do you consider the fact that plants absorb nutrients from the soil which are supplied by dead organisms? Aren't plants thus exploiting the poor small creatures only because of their size and positionality as do meat lovers?
Let's be practical, when you people liberate the pigs from the factories where exactly will you release them? Do you consider the thousands who will be unemployed because of the liberation of the animals? Do you even consider that manure based fertilizers might not be made available for use by your vegetable farmers who will then resort to more dangerous chemical solutions which can kill millions of organisms found in the soil?
if a pig is born into a farm they do not know the difference dip shit
all you people saying animals have rights just like people bull shit thats crap this is the only way for the pig industry to make money they can run around and be free in the hill where you grow your pot other wise they would run their weight off which would sent the farmer broke and his family would be on the streets now you can reply if your not high ya pail fuck
@bussmigun83 1. There is an unequal distribution of produce. If you can feed 10 people with a certain amount of grain, or 1 person with meat for which the same amount of grain was used, you can speak of a bad conversion rate. Equals waste.
2. So because practically all forms of cultivation results is the death of certain organisms, we can discard all ethical concerns? Seems like a dangerous fallacy.
3. Animals are enslaved BECAUSE people eat (wear, use...) them. Not vice versa!
sensocentrism 1 week ago
@sensocentrist Firstly, I would like to say that the resources you refer to are not wasted, because they werecultivated and produced for the purposes they serve. Secondly, you are the ones defending the lives of organisms, I'm just proving to you that your stance is hypocritical. Thirdly, I used the idea of the exploitation of the dead organisms to show how the majority of humans consume meat. The majority of meat eaters get animals that are already killed, all they do is prepare and/or consume.
bussmigun83 1 week ago
@bussmigun83 - There are animal sanctuaries, where animals are taken care of, not exploited. I've seen many, including rescued pigs who live there happily.
- No amount of financial income should supersede morality and ethics. We abolished human slavery in our western world, although this was a flourishing economical industry.
- You use far more produce when you consume animal derived products. Just research the food conversion ratio. Vegans exploit earth less.
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sensocentrist 2 weeks ago
@bussmigun83 Do you understand the ratio of food conversion? It can take up to 16 pounds of grain to "produce" 1 pound of meat. Thus not only a waste of resources, but a higher mortality rate of small organism as well. You kill less small organisms if you're a vegan.
Plants use dead organisms, they don't kill them. What's your point? Plants and small organisms have always had some sort of symbiosis. Hardly the term you'd want to use in the case of human anthropocentrism.
sensocentrist 2 weeks ago
Do you consider how many small organisms are destroyed when land is cleared for farming? Do you consider that the small organisms which destroy the vegetation you eat are killed for being nuisances? Do you know that they are more beneficial to more eco-systems than are you? Do you consider the fact that plants absorb nutrients from the soil which are supplied by dead organisms? Aren't plants thus exploiting the poor small creatures only because of their size and positionality as do meat lovers?
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Let's be practical, when you people liberate the pigs from the factories where exactly will you release them? Do you consider the thousands who will be unemployed because of the liberation of the animals? Do you even consider that manure based fertilizers might not be made available for use by your vegetable farmers who will then resort to more dangerous chemical solutions which can kill millions of organisms found in the soil?
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if a pig is born into a farm they do not know the difference dip shit
all you people saying animals have rights just like people bull shit thats crap this is the only way for the pig industry to make money they can run around and be free in the hill where you grow your pot other wise they would run their weight off which would sent the farmer broke and his family would be on the streets now you can reply if your not high ya pail fuck
caleb1808 1 month ago
@caleb1808 no PIGS ARE SMART AS DOGS YOU FILTHY MURDER
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Learn more about pigs:
peta . org / issues / animals-used-for-food / pigs . aspx
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ElisaJane2005 5 months ago
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated." - M. Gandhi
The "greatness" of our living generation is mirrord in the insipid comments so far.
ElisaJane2005 5 months ago