Wenn sie hinhören, wenn Sie bedenken, wann diese Aufführung stattfand, dann werden Sie bemerken, dass wir hier Furtwänglers musikalischen Kommentar zur Nazi-Unkultur und zum Kriege hören! - Später, nach dem Krieg hören sich die Aufführungen anders an. Wenn Ihnen das nicht genügt, lesen Sie nach, was andere Musiker (Orchestermusiker, Sänger/innen, bedeutende Dirigenten) über seine Aufführungen sagen.
Facile is criticizing those who fail to meet a heroic standard. Not all can be Knappertsbusch, spitting in Goebbel's face by asking if he was a "Mus Nazi", let alone a Marlene Dietrich, singing on behalf of the Allies against Hitler. The lack of such courage merely indicates a more ordinary human, 99% of whom cannot be heroes. It is enough to not be a Schwarzkopf, whose Nazi habits never seemed to stay accolades.
The conductor remained in Germany for several reasons: He feared the Nazis would imprison his mother; his orchestra was threatened with disbandment; many people, Jews and dissidents, depended upon his interventions; and most importantly, he could not accept Nazism as representative of the "true" Germany. I admit that I wish he had left, but for his own sake, not because I feel that he did wrong to others by staying.
By the way, from what I understand, Hitler did NOT attend this concert; I have read that Hitler refused to have anything further to do with Furtwaengler personally after 1937, calling him a "most unpleasant person." And also by the way, this was the only time he conducted on Hitler's birthday; he avoided it subsequently by getting a doctor's note to excuse him. As he was repeatedly negotiating to get people out of concentration camps, his "concessions" to Nazi demands are perhaps explainable.
Some beautiful things. But the chorus sound is spread and amateurish, the end is rushed and sounds out of control, and actually, I find his gestures non-specific and frantic. I don't get why he's such a legend.
@Grimgerde The only retards people are those who speak while they don't know. Fürtwangler was a great man who saved many Jews and who fight against the nazis. He risked his life several times by refusing to be part of propaganda. This performance is nothing but an indictment aginst the nazis.
Saying Fürtwangler is a nazy is like saying that Shostakovich was a great fan of Stalin. That's just ignorance.
@TheseusTex
Wenn sie hinhören, wenn Sie bedenken, wann diese Aufführung stattfand, dann werden Sie bemerken, dass wir hier Furtwänglers musikalischen Kommentar zur Nazi-Unkultur und zum Kriege hören! - Später, nach dem Krieg hören sich die Aufführungen anders an. Wenn Ihnen das nicht genügt, lesen Sie nach, was andere Musiker (Orchestermusiker, Sänger/innen, bedeutende Dirigenten) über seine Aufführungen sagen.
Mejeanpierre 1 day ago
Facile is criticizing those who fail to meet a heroic standard. Not all can be Knappertsbusch, spitting in Goebbel's face by asking if he was a "Mus Nazi", let alone a Marlene Dietrich, singing on behalf of the Allies against Hitler. The lack of such courage merely indicates a more ordinary human, 99% of whom cannot be heroes. It is enough to not be a Schwarzkopf, whose Nazi habits never seemed to stay accolades.
P1B1U1H1 2 weeks ago
Excellent version...Thanks to the uploader
jaruca2007 2 weeks ago
see the complete version...
youtube.com/watch?v=EmV35VPRT9s
obtica1 3 weeks ago
And by the way, if it matters as to my credentials, I am Jewish on my father's side and also GERMAN.
Freudboy 3 weeks ago
The conductor remained in Germany for several reasons: He feared the Nazis would imprison his mother; his orchestra was threatened with disbandment; many people, Jews and dissidents, depended upon his interventions; and most importantly, he could not accept Nazism as representative of the "true" Germany. I admit that I wish he had left, but for his own sake, not because I feel that he did wrong to others by staying.
Freudboy 3 weeks ago
By the way, from what I understand, Hitler did NOT attend this concert; I have read that Hitler refused to have anything further to do with Furtwaengler personally after 1937, calling him a "most unpleasant person." And also by the way, this was the only time he conducted on Hitler's birthday; he avoided it subsequently by getting a doctor's note to excuse him. As he was repeatedly negotiating to get people out of concentration camps, his "concessions" to Nazi demands are perhaps explainable.
Freudboy 3 weeks ago
Some beautiful things. But the chorus sound is spread and amateurish, the end is rushed and sounds out of control, and actually, I find his gestures non-specific and frantic. I don't get why he's such a legend.
TheseusTex 1 month ago
@Carlosvaranaga
fucking commie!
tajniak4 1 month ago
@Grimgerde The only retards people are those who speak while they don't know. Fürtwangler was a great man who saved many Jews and who fight against the nazis. He risked his life several times by refusing to be part of propaganda. This performance is nothing but an indictment aginst the nazis.
Saying Fürtwangler is a nazy is like saying that Shostakovich was a great fan of Stalin. That's just ignorance.
GGbreizh 1 month ago