Part 1/3 - Gun Control Debate on E-TV South Africa - 2010-01-22

Paul Oxley vs Natalie Jaynes
Paul 1 - Natalie 0

Don't forget to watch Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TuCxANMHMM

and Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPsgaT4-XxE

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• gun control
• south africa
• etv
• paul oxley
• natalie jaynes
• firearms
• fca
• GFSA
• gun owners of south africa

[Urbitrix]

An armed society is a polite and law-abiding society.

The liberals want you disarmed while their limosines and armed guards, police and bodyguards ride roughshod over you...

[DaSlug32]

The ANC is disarming the Boers and other Europeans, whom they deem as a threat to their power. Once you are defenseless, they will slaughter the lot of you. KEEP YOUR GUNS.

[catmandoo4u1]

In the USA we tired gun control. Gun control = more violence. Criminal will always get guns especially in africa.

[Bozewani]

@Urbitrix ah the typical 2nd Amendment neocon Republican.

Move to Arizona and kill a few illegal immigrants

[stephenabm]

No to Gun Control!!!

[spudbean94]

this is bullshit dont let them disarm you people. dont let them take ur right to protect urself i have lived in south africa i know what it is like. i now live in england and we have already basicly been disarmed.

[CarbonGrips]

@MarilulaneMusic You also never answered my question about what animals do you think it IS okay to kill. Mice and rats spread disease and so do insects etc. Do you believe it is okay for people to kill those living creatures. Do you believe it is okay for your immune system to kill the viruses and bacteria that get into your body and try to kill you? If you want the "killing" to stop, then lets cover what killing is allowed and what is not in your opinion.

[CarbonGrips]

@MarilulaneMusic Pure silliness. What do you suggest should be done about the animals that destroy crops? Animals like wild pigs for example. There was a time before guns when rocks and fists were the only weapons and even back then, the best weapons were used to attack and to defend. Every animal species in every time history has killed to benefit itself and in doing that, another had to die. If it had not killed, it might have died. Get use to killing, it has, and always will be part of life.

[MarilulaneMusic]

@CarbonGrips carbon, the essential point is that man must elevate himself from his primitive tendencies and enhance the human mind, so that an undeveloped world is created into a sensible and happy place for all living creatures. walking round with guns is no different from cavemen walking round with clubs. we must bring children up in a better system, show them a better way, so they can teach their children better etc. that is the way to lasting change!!!! :P

[CarbonGrips]

@MarilulaneMusic We accept the rights of non criminals to be armed here, but we do not accept killing people unless it is in self defense.

[CarbonGrips]

@MarilulaneMusic "but this is why i dislike animal hurters - because THEY are the aggressors"

So what? People don't usually hunt just to kill things. They use the dead animal for something, usually food and clothing. That being said, some animals ar ejust pests that destroy crops and need killed because they reproduce so fast and they kill live stock, pets, and crops. What form of life is ok to kill in your opinion? Are bugs, mice, insects, worms, rats, any of those things ok to kill?

[MarilulaneMusic]

@CarbonGrips well its distressing to hear you have killed animals in the past. i believe in intellectual improvement. i hope we can move forward from that now. you agree with you 100% that there is a difference in killing an aggressor and an innocent person. but this is why i dislike animal hurters - because THEY are the aggressors.. see my point?

:P