Bert Jansch "Blackwaterside" 11/17/06

The Empty Bottle, Chicago.

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• pentangle
• martin
• carthy
• john
• renbourn
• fairport
• convention
• british
• irish
• folk
• briggs
• jimmy
• page
• led
• zeppelin
• neil
• young

[ShiftyKilo]

the crowd won't shut up.

[thew75]

it's ALWAYS a chatfest at the bottle.... the music can turn into wallpaper easily, since there's a bar in the back.

[LuxxxNoir]

being a huge fan from the 70's , Page/Plant openly admitted that they'd take riffs,lyrics,etc.from other music they even named artists,mostly Robert Johnson.This the spirit of any art. Look back in old interviews.What a better way to influence the generations than to teach them of generations in the past.

many Kudos to this great performer and this great song.Most people wouldnt give a hoot about music like this if it weren't for other musicians bringing it to their attention.

[morphinlounge101]

After hearing this I felt ashamed for being a Jimmy Page fan. But then again Jimmy Page introduced me to Bert's music. So Jimmy pay the royalties to Bert and I'll give you kudos for introducing me to Bert's music.

[americandevil]

@LuxxxNoir There's some truth to what you say, but the problem with your defense of Page, is that he did NOT credit Jansch.

Where Jansch's recording of "Blackwaterside" is credited as "Traditional, arranged Jansch", Jimmy Page gave songwriting credits for "Black Mountain Side" to himself.

Jansch's arrangement of Blackwaterside was totally unique compared with the traditional arrangements of the song. . . Jimmy Page is a talented guitarist, and a bold, unashamed plagiarizer.

[smikestack]

God bless Bert. Damn the talkers. I watched him in 1965 in Brum, and I don't think anyone said a word. But, genres being genres -- a term we didn't know --- when a blues playing genius, a friend, took the stage for a couple of numbers at the folk club, a lot of people turned their backs and began talking.

Manners.

[MrAshToast]

Glad to see old Bertie's still playing as excellently as he did on the album back in the day! :-)

[tomohiko315]

Good job man!!

[cjwaywell]

Oh what a joy it is to listen to this again.

I could listen to Bert 24/7 he just sends me off into another dimention with his totally unique playing and singing. An Awesome Video of an outstanding performer.

[mamacornettesmoney]

The words and melody are traditional. the guitar arrangement is Jansch's original.

So yes, the tune comes from an old traditional song, but the guitar pice that Page took is all Jansch's.

Also, Page registered it as an original compostion on his part, depite being Jansch's original guitar accomaniment for the traditional words and melody.

[2hondas4fun]

Brilliant idea sharing this style thanx to Jansch for creating it and Jimmy for stealing it and letting everybody enjoy it!

[viking1au]

Page was not the only one. In the '60's people like Paul Simon & Dylan were prolific poachers in the UK. Paul Simon pinched Anji, by Bert, written by the late Davy Graham, and Scarborough Fair, pinched off Martin Carthy. Martin & Bert perform this in the Acoustic Routes series #4. It is said Girl from the North Country became Boots of Spanish Leather. I recommend watching the whole 8 of the series. -- I downloaded the lot. It is hosted by Billy Connelly, who plays with Bert in 1 episode.

[vettezeppelin]

Thanks for the info...I will check out the stuff you suggest. Yes there is no doubt that Page and Zeppelin were a bit on or past the line on "borrowing"...still think their body of work is unsurpassed!!! By the way check out a band called Hardline Drive. Just found them and love them.

[viking1au]

Trad. and given to Bert by ex girlfriend Anne Briggs. Bert developed it & wrote guitar for it, and yes, a certain person ripped it off & even modified the name. There is a youtube post of Anne Briggs doing this solo; +a more recent one now in #1 of "Bert Jansch, -Acoustic Routes". Anne sings parts of "Go Your Way" and Blackwaterside, both a treat. She was known also to sometimes sing with The Watersons. Martin Carthy's wifeNorma, and daughter Eliza, are currently last of the Waterson dynasty.