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[carpentersdaughter2]

Well what church are you refering too, the Catholic Church? That was an apostate church from it's inception, and still is. Those who have done bad things in the name of God really didn't study their Bible. so please, don't blame God for the stupidity of men. He made a way for you and if you live a bad life while claiming to be a Christian, then you really aren't a Christian at all. It's only in the name, not in action. Why not focus who has done great things in God's name rather then bad?

[carpentersdaughter2]

Those who are not forgiven will not enter the kingdom, that is true. God did make a way for the effenimate, revilers, adulterers, murderers to be forgiven and be able to enter into God's kingdom. He asks us to believe in him...is that all that hard? He loves each of us that he made salvation a free gift, but we have to accept this free gift first. It's your choice, and God will not force you to believe, but if you refuse, then you will not enter into His Kingdom.

[Imaginefree69]

And while you are accusing me of ignoring your answers,

I notice you have altogether avoided

the fruits of the church I listed.

Please don't be hypocritical.

If you want me to address all of your comments

perhaps you should do the same.

That's what Jesus recommended.

[Imaginefree69]

"or you don't agree."

Am I obliged to agree with your answers?

I'm not playing games, Daughter.

Your Bible does list "revilers" alongside "effeminate"

as those who will not be in the kingdom.

Reviling is another word for name-calling and insults.

Besides, it's just immature

and it doesn't strengthen your arguments at all.

[carpentersdaughter2]

I have given answers too but you seem to ignore them or you don't agree. If you can show me in the Bible where it says thou shall not committ sarcasm, I shall obey. As far as love. I do care where you spend eternity, but playing games is what you want to do, and you don't like it when I won't play it the way you want me too.

[Imaginefree69]

"Boy, I just keep hearing stupid statements from you." So all you have to offer is insults? Too bad your "father" didn't teach you how to have an adult discussion. The fruit of the church around the world has been genocide, war, destroying cultures, destroying languages, theft, slavery, rape, murder, sexual abuse... And that's just the direct stuff. Then there's ruining lives with guilt and shame, larcenous tithes and "offerings", addictions, mental illness, suicide, despair...

[carpentersdaughter2]

Boy, I just keep hearing stupid statements from you. Do you have any idea how many people in all the churches of this world ARE helping people? No, because you ASSUME more then you investigate. I don't even know why I bother having a conversation with you is like trying to talk to a monkey...oops, maybe I am.

[Imaginefree69]

One pair of hands actually helping is worth more than a million pairs of hands clasped in prayer. Prayer is an excuse to stay comfortably at home while feeling like you are helping others. Prayer is nearly always a substitute for getting involved. Or, in the case of praying for the sick, a substitute for common sense. Prayer with fasting is often effective, if you don't cheat on the fasting and if what you are praying for is weight loss!

[carpentersdaughter2]

Thank you so much. I cheerish all the encouragement that comes my way..God Bless..

[talithakoumi]

that was beautiful thank you Linda!