Daniel Dennett is Not A Believer.
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Dawkins is not a scientist, and Dennett is an idiot, period.
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@npa992, to believe something is not true is still a belief, even if it happens to be empirically based. If experience causes me to develop the perception that the sun is round, I will likely believe the sun is round based on that perception. That is the reason I have stated, "What one perceives, one believes." However, I realize we all have cognitive biases. And that awareness helps me deny the belief bubbling up from the cognitive biases of perception. Thus, we TEND to believe what we perceive
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@unseenstrings I think you have a misconception of what belief is. Belief is a state of mind where you hold a proposition to be true. Thus, if hold the proposition that the Earth revolves around the Sun to be true. I believe that the Earth revolves around the Sun. This is empirically based, but it still classifies as a belief
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i miss your vids :(
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can i eat you?
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dennett's thought experiment was about a scientist with a complete science - a complete knowledge of how our brains work. he says the scientist does not know we have beliefs. then you tell me it's because we don't know enough - obviously, you haven't read it.
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@legodesi I did, you have deduced something that does not follow. Sorry.
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@legodesi What theory would I replace it with? Panpsychism? Jaegwon Kim and his essays on causal closure has limited my possibilities greatly. I am open minded, but I the debate thus far hasn't left me with many options.
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Now as far is the super-advanced alien race finding this thing called belief in the brain: I suspect he is saying in other words what I have said in the past. When a religious person holds a particular perception based on his life's experiences, we call the perception "belief." Yet, "belief" is a bias term for describing development of particular perception. See, when a scientist or atheist holds a particular perception based on his life's experiences we call it scientifically or logically based
@Legodesi.
So to be clear: are you claiming that Dennett cannot really believe that beliefs are not real, because to do so would be self refuting?
leawardseif 1 year ago
@leawardseif
sorry i only got to this question now. to answer your question, no, i'm not saying that dennett cannot really believe that beliefs are not real. i haven't argued that it's self-refuting.
legodesi 1 year ago