" Pillory " counter to rubber guard pass

This is a position I call the " pillory " that I've been playing with for a while now. Any feedback is appreciated.

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• no gi jiujitsu
• no gi choke
• no gi sweep
• rubber guard choke
• rubber guard sweep
• rubber guard
• rubber guard pillory
• jiujitsu
• no gi grappling
• pillory jiujitsu
• rubber guard pass
• rubber guard mma
• pillory choke
• pillory position
• rubber guard counter

[SakoYo]

That's some nice stuff, have you ever pulled any of it off in a live roll?

[gabrielraindog]

I have had some success with it in live rolls, BUT these days I train with a pretty small group of training partners and I'm just not much of a competitor, so I don't feel like I have enough opportunity to test it sufficiently on my own. So this is my exactly why posted the video; hoping to get feedback from people who have more expertise than myself.

[gabrielraindog]

....... Of course, the squeeze, double bagger, crackhead control ect.ect. can prevent this in the first place BUT , IF I find my guard being passed like this and the carni is stuffed then what other options do I have ? As I said, this is just something I've been experimenting with. Any help with this is appreciated ! Thank you.

[gabrielraindog]

Hey, thank you for the feedback. Good point. My thinking is that there are still a lot of guys out there who, because they have still not developed the leg squeeze stamina or for what ever reason, are still getting their guard passed when their opponent pushes down their leg and crawls over it (even when they have chill dog). Plus I'm seeing guys who are learning to stop the carni by stuffing the leg under the knee (not allowing it between the legs).

[wondeboy12]

Thanks for the breakdown bro, I think at my current level it's too much of an advanced choke for me to even consider.

[snapper842002]

yea the london cartwheel completely counters this, in fact even worse than it counters london because your arms are completely on the other side of his head

[EPR89]

@bentsmma Almost. He additionally used his second hand to support the choke. But yeah, basically it's the same concept.

[bentsmma]

Nick Pace did this move in TUF finale!!!!!!!!! :)

[2wirrallads]

amazing feet

[JoeyStalin]

I am wondering what is stopping him from cartwheeling counter clockwise to escape, kind of like how the London position was countered?

[jahoppas]

It seems to work well, and I can tell u have some experience. I would recommend checking out Eddie Bravo's rubber guard 1/3 - 3/3, and submissions 101 has some great stuff. Also, take a look at Sean Bollinger's double arm triangle. The double arm triangle opens up a lot of possibilities with the 'double bagger'. Also, Eddie has a move called the sorcerer on PanicPulse's page. These are all references to youtube videos, so search for them & check them out.

[xletizia1127]

nick pace used a wierd version of this on TUF finale an now its called the pace choke.

[ArcReforged]

okay so what if at 0:58 your opponent puts his full weight on your trapped leg?

[brettgoudy]

very intresting technique, i use that pass all the time, but i prefer being on my back so if some one tries it on me, i'm gonna give this a shot... curious to see how it works